Extron electronics RGB 202 VS2 User manual

Extron electronics RGB 202 VS2 User manual
HDfury2 User Manual
Table of Contents
Table of Contents .......................................................................................................... 2
Overview ........................................................................................................................ 3
Connecting Cables ........................................................................................................ 5
Power/Status LED ......................................................................................................... 6
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) ............................................................................. 7
General ........................................................................................................................ 7
Sound .......................................................................................................................... 7
Video ........................................................................................................................... 9
Image Shifting ............................................................................................................ 12
RGB Image Sync ....................................................................................................... 13
Colour Depth Upscaling ............................................................................................. 13
Limiting Resolution Support (EDID modification) ....................................................... 14
Specifications .............................................................................................................. 16
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Thank you for purchasing the HDfury2!
This unique HDMI converter will allow you to connect newer HDMI devices to HD ready
displays and projectors that do not have HDMI inputs.
The HDfury2 upgrades your HD-ready TV or projector allowing you to watch highdefinition at up to FULL HD 1080p resolution.
The HDfury2 includes features such as:
One HDMI 1.1/1.2 input
Stereo sound output (analog and digital)
Perfect image centering in Component output mode
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Connecting Cables
To use your HDfury2:
Connect an HDMI input cable to the HDMI input.
Connect a video output cable to the analog video output.
Connect the HDfury2 power supply (optional but usually required).
Connect an audio output cable (optional).
As shipped, the HDfury2 defaults to Component (Y/Pb/Pr or YUV) video output and will
convert all resolutions up to and including FULL HD 1080p. For displays with RGB
(VGA) inputs set the selection switch to RGB.
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Power/Status LED
The HDfury2 window will glow blue when in use. When the HDfury2 receives an HDMI
signal the blue status LED will turn on, then off, and then on permanently to indicate that
the HDCP handshake has been completed.
The status of the blue LED may be used for troubleshooting:
Blue LED OFF: No HDMI signal or insufficient power. Connect an HDMI cable
and use the HDfury2 power supply.
Blue LED BLINKING: Insufficient power. The HDfury2 power supply must be
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Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
Why do I need HD (720p) or Full HD (1080p)?
Blu-ray players, HDMI graphic cards, PS3, Xbox 360 Elite are all able to unleash their
true potential (720p/1080p mode) only through the HDMI output. If you want a valid
ticket to the Full HD world you either need a compatible display (with HDMI input) or an
HDfury2 for your existing display. 1080p FULLHD as found on Blu-ray and HD has over
6 times the resolution as standard DVD and TV. For the best movie and home theater
experience, you *need* Blu-ray/HD.
Why do I need an HDCP compliant display?
HDMI is a new standard that comes with a form of hardware protection called HDCP. If
your display doesn't have a HDMI input you won't be able to display a 720p/1080p
signal (from HDMI sources). Prior to exchanging video data, the HDMI source
exchanges HDCP keys with HDMI display. Both devices have a special HDCP chip
embedded. If your display doesn't include an HDCP chip, even if it's technically able to
display 720p or 1080p signal, it will display a BLACK SCREEN. On some devices (ex:
Playstation3, Xbox360) 1080p mode is only available through the HDMI output.
I use component cables to connect my Blu-ray or DVD player to my display
device and it works just fine! Why do I need HDfury2?
Blu-ray and many DVD players can also up-convert standard definition DVDs to higher
resolutions (720p, 1080i, 1080p), but they only do this via the HDMI outputs (not
component). So if you want to get the higher resolution benefits of your player's upconversion circuitry, you're forced to use HDMI. As well, in the future it may not be
possible to pass certain high definition content over component video cables. A content
flag called the ICT (Image Constraint Token) allows broadcasters and movie studios to
limit or "down-res" the HD video signal to standard definition 480P resolution over
component video cables. Hollywood has reportedly agreed to not activate this flag until
2011-2012. And the most important reason to use HDfury2: The picture quality is
substantially better! (Sharper/cleaner/less noise/less ringing/etc).
Do I need to use the sound output on the HDfury2?
Likely not. The audio output of the HDfury2 is a convenience feature if you do not have
a home theater receiver. The HDfury2 supports stereo analog output as well as stereo
digital SPDIF output. If all you have are the speakers in your TV you can use the 2channel analog audio output of the HDfury2 as a convenient way to feed audio directly
into your TV without having to run separate (possibly long) audio cables from the source
to your TV as in many setups the HDfury2 will be plugged right into the TV. This way
you only need to run one HDMI cable to the TV and then use a short audio cable from
the HDfury2 to the TV sound input. Anyone with a home theater receiver/pre-amp and
separate speakers should instead connect their source devices directly to the
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receiver/pre-amp and not use the HDfury2 sound output. Typically there is no need to
use the audio features of the HDfury2 with a home theater setup. If you require 5.1
Dolby Digital or DTS sound out of your HDfury, consider the Hdfury3.
How do I hook up the audio from the HDfury2?
The HDfury2 has both analog and digital (TOSLINK) audio output in one connector
located on the bottom of the unit. It's a 2-in-1 round connector meaning that you can
plug in either a 3.5mm stereo analog jack or a digital mini-TOLINK (3.5mm mini-jack)
cable and get stereo analog sound or stereo digital sound out of the HDfury2. See
further below for pictures of both types of connectors/cables.
HDfury2 3.5mm mini-TOSLINK digital audio cable:
If you'd like to use a "regular" TOSLINK cable, use a 3.5mm Mini-TOSLINK to regular
TOSLINK adapter:
A 3.5mm stereo audio cable can be used for connecting the HDfury2 to a TV if you do
not have a home theater setup (you only have 2 speakers in your TV):
The audio output of the HDfury2 gets all distorted after a while. What's wrong?
The HDfury2 supports 2 channel audio up to 192Khz sampling rate per channel. It does
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not support 5.1 or 7.1 surround sound. Only stereo. You've got the sound output set to
multi-channel (more than 2) on your source device. While passing more channels may
seem to work the sound will get distorted after a while. For multi-channel home theater
setups connect your source devices directly to your receiver or pre-amp (see previous
question). If 5.1/7.1 sound is required, consider the HDfury3
What resolutions does the HDfury2 support?
The HDfury2 supports any resolution/refresh rate combination (interlaced or
progressive) up to 1080p/60Hz in RGB output mode including 1080p/24. If you require
1080p/72Hz support consider the HDfury3. All standard definition (SD) and high
definition (HD) resolutions are supported in component (Y/Pb/Pr) output mode, including
1080p/60 and 1080p/24.
Does the HDfury2 change the resolution? Up-convert or down-covert?
The HDfury2 does not change the resolution or refresh rate in any way. It converts the
HDMI 1.1/1.2 digital input signal to an analog RGBHV (VGA) or Component (Y/Pb/Pr)
signal. It also provides HDCP decryption if needed. The HDfury2 outputs whatever
resolution you feed it. Feed 1080p in and you'll get 1080p out. Feed 480i in and you'll
get 480i out.
Does the HDfury2 support both Component and RGB video output? I thought they
were the same?
The HDfury2 supports both component (Y/Pb/Pr or YUV) and RGBHV (sometimes
called VGA) signal types on the output. They are not the same at all and cannot be
used interchangeably Some displays have component inputs, some displays have RGB,
some have both. The HDfury2 lets you choose between the two to best match your
display's requirements.
My picture is all green! What's going on?
You likely have a display that only accepts RGB and you have the HDfury2 set to
component output (Y/Pb/Pr). Switch it to RGB.
I want to use the component input on my display. How do I set the HDfury2 to
output component (Y/Pb/Pr) video?
Switch the RGB/YUV switch on the side of the HDfury2 to “YUV”. Make sure to use the
HDfury2 component breakout cable to connect the HDfury2 to your display's component
(Y/Pb/Pr) input. It is the cable with 3 RCA (phono) style connectors coloured red, green,
and blue and looks like this:
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I want to use the RGB (VGA) input on my display. How do I set the HDfury2 to
output RGB (VGA) video?
Switch the RGB/YUV switch on the side of the HDfury2 to “RGB”. Make sure to use one
of HDfury2 RGB cables to connect the HDfury2 to your display's RGB (VGA) input.
Three RGB cables are available: A VGA (D-Sub15) cable, a 5-BNC cable, and a special
Barco CRT projector port 3 cable. Do not use the component 3 RCA (phono) style
connector cable (shown above) as it will not work.
I have a scaler or doubler with DVI/HDMI inputs and an RGB or Component output
connected to my display device. I don't need an HDfury2 right?
Not true. You still need the HDfury2 if you want to use HDMI sources such as Blu-ray or
DVD players as they use HDCP (high definition copy protection). The scaler is not
allowed to output an analog RGB or Component signal. The scaler will simply TURN
OFF its analog output or limit it to 480i resolution. Only the digital DVI/HDMI outputs will
remain on. To solve this, connect the HDfury2 to the DVI/HDMI output of your scaler,
and then connect the HDfury2 to your display device using the analog RGB or
Component input. Simple!
I have a scaler or doubler with DVI/HDMI inputs and a DVI/HDMI output connected
to my display device's DVI/HDMI input. I don't need an HDfury2 right?
Maybe. You still need the HDfury2 if you want to use HDMI sources such as Blu-ray or
DVD players that have HDCP-protected content *and* your display device only has a
DVI input. The scaler, must pass the HDCP-protected content all the way to your
display device. The display device must decrypt the content. If your display device only
has a DVI input and it does not support HDCP, it will not be sent a signal. To solve this,
connect the HDfury2 to the DVI/HDMI output of your scaler, and then connect the
HDfury2 to your display device using the analog RGB or Component input. Simple!
I want to connect a longer cable to the output of the HDfury2. Can I do that?
Yes. The HDfury2 supports analog output cables up to 25-35 feet in length. The
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HDfury1 did not allow for longer output cables. If you require longer output cables
consider the HDfury3. It supports output cables up to 50 feet in length.
Does the HDfury2 support 24fps found in next generation Blu-ray and HD DVD
Yes! The HDfury2 supports 24fps. With cathodic displays such as CRT projectors or
CRT based RPTVs or tube TVs, 24fps is too low of a frequency for the display to use.
The image will flicker like crazy and will not be watchable. You must turn off 24fps
support in the source when using a CRT based display. You can however use 24fps on
a plasma or LCD display and it will be displayed nicely using the HDfury2! Note
however that most displays that do not have HDMI inputs will not work at 24 Hz as 24
Hz support was generally added to displays after HDMI was invented. To turn off 24 Hz,
set your source devices to 50 or 60 Hz output and not 24 frames (Hz) or "Automatic".
I can only get lower resolutions to work. When I set my source to high resolutions
like 1080p I don't get an image!
(1) Make sure to use the HDfury2 power supply at all times. It is usually required.
(2) Many TVs do not support 1080p and must be fed a 1080i or 720p signal instead.
Make sure to set your source to 1080i or 720p unless your display's manual specifically
states that it supports 1080p.
(3) Make sure to turn off 24fps (24p) support in the source (see last question).
The picture is blank! I don't get an image at all from my PS3, Blu-ray player, or
other source!
(1) Make sure your display supports the resolution the source is feeding it. If your TV
does not support 1080p, set your sources to 1080i or 720p. Some sources will
automatically use the highest resolution available to them based on what they see
connected, and since they see the HDfury2 which supports 1080p FULL HD, the source
will 'think' you have a 1080p capable TV and is most likely feeding the HDfury2 a 1080p
signal. You need to lower this to 1080i or 720p in the source device.
(2) Make sure that the 24fps output option in the source device is set to OFF or
DISABLED and not AUTOMATIC unless your TV specifically supports 24fps. Most do
not, especially older TVs that do not have HDMI inputs.
(3) Make sure you're using the HDfury2 power supply at all times.
I'm still getting a black screen from my PS3 when using the HDfury2. How can I fix
The problem is that you likely connected the HDfury2 to the HDMI port while the PS3
was still setup to output by another port (component or composite). The result is no
picture over HDMI. The PS3 will output low resolution on every output when you reset
the display settings this way: PS3 in stand by mode, hold on power for 5 sec until you
heard 3 beeps.
The PS3 restarts and you can than access low resolution through both HDMI and/or
other ports and perform the display test to choose your preferred resolution.
On my PS3 I can see the menu, play games and Blu-ray discs, but I get a blank
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screen or an out of range error message when I play a DVD.
You need to change a setting in your PS3: In addition to setting up the HDMI resolution
on the PS3 as outlined above, you also have to go under the Blu-ray playback settings
and adjust the DVD upscale feature because by default it will also be 1080p. Another
hint: When you first connect an HDfury device to the PS3 the PS3 will ask: "A new
HDMI device has been detected, do you want to use it?" Answer 'YES' only if your TV is
1080p capable. Otherwise answer 'NO', and you will be presented with another screen
where you will be able to change the resolution settings and set them manually to
whatever your TV supports.
My picture is blank when I play back Blu-ray discs but not when I play DVDs.
What's going on?
Blu-ray discs are natively 1080p/24Hz. You likely have your Blu-ray player set to 24Hz
or "Automatic" frame rate output so that it is outputting a 24 Hz (fps) signal. Most
displays that do not have HDMI inputs do not work at 24 Hz so you need to turn this off.
Either set your Blu-ray player to 50 or 60Hz or set 'Automatic Frame Rate' to off. See
your Blu-ray player manual.
My Sony G90 CRT projector looks funny when I use the HDfury2.
Go into the G90 service menu "Input Setting" with the fury installed and set the "Clamp"
to HP or H/C from auto. This should straighten out the picture if it is varying in
brightness and getting weird bands of dark as scenes change.
My screen is all pink/purple or has weird colours on it. What's wrong?
There is a switch on the side of the HDfury2 for selecting RGB or YUV (component)
video output. Flick the switch on the side back and forth once or twice. It may have
gotten stuck in between the RGB and YUV (component) modes. You may also be in the
wrong mode for your TV. If you're using the component breakout cable and have it
plugged into the Y/Pb/Pr component input on your TV you must set the switch to YUV
(component). If you're using the RED, GREEN, or BLUE RGB cable then you must set
the switch to RGB.
Image Shifting
Will the HDfury2 shift the image to the left or cropped (cut off) in any way like
some other converters?
The HDfury2 includes advanced features to ensure that the image stays perfectly
centered when component (Y/Pb/Pr) output mode is used. In RGB (VGA) output mode
the image is passed directly through so make sure your display has image shifting
controls if RGB is to be used. If you require image centering in RBG mode consider the
HDfury3. The HDfury3 adds a new feature to allow for manual centering of the image
when RGB output mode is used.
Does the HDfury2 automatically center the image?
In component (Y/Pb/Pr) output mode the HDfury2 always automatically centers the
image. Nothing else needs to be done. The HDfury2 does not offer image centering in
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RGB (VGA) output mode. If you require image centering in RBG mode consider the
The picture is not centered when I use the HDfury2 in RGB (VGA) output mode.
How do I fix it?
The HDfury2 does not offer image centering in RGB (VGA) output mode. If you require
image centering in RBG mode consider the HDfury3.. Third party products such as the
Box1020 may also be added to the HDfury2 manually center the image properly
RGB Image Sync
My display has composite (combined) sync with only 4 BNC connectors, not 5.
(Examples: Barco 7xx/Cine7 or Ampro CRT projectors). What cable do I order?
How do I hook it up?
Order the GREEN (5-BNC breakout cable) and combine the H/V sync lines using a $2
BNC T-connector:
You could also use an Extron 109 or 202 box to combine the two sync lines.
The image rolls, is unstable, or doesn't always lock on. What do I do?
Some displays such as early Electrohome ECP and Barco CRT projectors have fussy
sync circuitry. You need to combine the H/V sync lines using a $2 BNC T-connector
(see picture in last question). You could also use an Extron 109 or 202 box to combine
the two sync lines.
My display requires the RGB signal to always include negative or positive sync to
work. How do I set this?
The HDfury2 does not alter the signal that it is fed in any way. If it is fed a negative sync
signal, it will output a negative sync signal. If it is fed a positive sync signal, it will output
a positive sync signal. If your RGB display has special sync considerations consider the
HDfury3. The HDfury3 allows you to adjust or force the RGB sync in any way you may
require, to positive or negative if required. Third party products such as the Box1020
may also be added to the HDfury2 to force the sync.
Colour Depth Upscaling
Can I turn the colour depth upscaling feature off?
The HDfury2 expands the regular 16-235 image range to 0-255 for greater contrast
ratio. This may not be disabled. If you require that colour depth upscaling always be
disabled consider the HDfury3. The HDfury3 allows you to enable or disable colour
depth upscaling.
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Limiting Resolution Support (EDID modification)
Can I limit the maximum output resolution that my HDfury2 supports? For
example, 1080i instead of 1080p?
Yes. The HDfury2 EDID may be reprogrammed to remove support for certain
resolutions if required. This is an feature reserved for advanced technical users.
Do I need to limit the maximum output resolution that my HDfury2 supports?
Usually not. If your display supports 1080i but not 1080p simply set your source device
to the maximum resolution that your display supports. In other words, if your display
supports 1080i but not 1080p, in your source set up menus choose 1080i or uncheck
1080p from the list of supported resolutions.
So why would I want to limit the HDfury2 resolution?
Two reasons:
(1) Some source devices (such as some Samsung Blu-ray players) auto-detect the
maximum resolution that the display can support every time the player is turned on and
reset their resolution to that maximum. The source "sees" the 1080p capable HDfury2
and therefore sets its resolution to 1080p, requiring you to manually change the
resolution every time you want to use that source if your TV doesn't support 1080p.
Very annoying!
(2) Some displays may run hot or even malfunction if feed a resolution that is too high
such as 1080p. If you know your display doesn't like 1080p, turning it off in the HDfury2
adds some piece of mind and assurance that you'll never accidentally feed it too high a
Do I need to use the HDfury2 power supply?
The HDfury2 power supply is required in most setups. Some source devices will,
however, provide enough power to the HDfury2 over the HDMI line for it to operate
properly. Most source devices do not. We recommend that the power supply be used at
all times.
Why don't all HDMI source devices provide enough power to run the HDfury2
At maximum resolution (1080p/60Hz) the HDFury2 requires 370mA of current to
function correctly (more if the GammaX is also used in conjunction with the HDfury2).
The HDfury2 can be powered by the HDMI cable, however the HDMI standard states
that it HDMI should provide 'at least 50mA and at max 500mA'. This means the
manufacturers are not required to provide more than 50mA of current on their HDMI
outputs which is not enough to power the HDfury2. Less current means cheaper
manufacturing costs which means that 99% of manufacturers opt to just meet the
requirement of 50mA. Therefore most sources are close to the lower end at 50mA and
very few are near the upper end at 500mA. The PS3 and Xbox360 are the only two
notable exceptions. We recommend that the HDfury2 power supply be used in all
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setups other than when running directly from a PS3 or Xbox360. This is why all
CurtPalme.com HDfury2 kits come with the much needed power supply.
Is the HDfury2 power supply the same as that used by the HDfury1, HDfury3, and
The HDfury1, HDfury2, and GammaX power supplies are all the same.
The more advanced HDfury3 uses a different power supply. Do not use an HDfury2
power supply with the HDfury3.
What sort of power supply does the HDfury2 use?
The HDfury2 power supply adheres to these requirements:
- Provides REGULATED (+/- 5%) 5VDC power with 500mA min DC current
- Delivers the power through a small 0.65mm diameter center pin / 2.6mm outer
diameter DC plug (like the one often used in cellular phone AC adaptor)
- Provides the correct polarity with 'plus' on the OUTER part of the plug and 'minus'
(ground) on the small center pin of the DC jack.
Trying to use an AC/DC adaptor that doesn't adhere to these three requirements may
destroy the HDfury2.
My picture 'blanks out' from time to time when using the HDfury2. Why is this
If the HDfury2 blue LED is OFF during the picture blanking, the problem is with the
HDfury2 or the power supply. If the HDfury2 blue LED is ON during the picture blanking,
the problem is with the component cable, RGB cable or the display.
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HDMI 1.1/1.2 input
Component (YPbPr/YCbCr) and VGA (RGBHV) video output
Sound output in both Analog and digital Optical (S/PDIF) through an innovative
3.5mm combo jack
Perfectly centered image in all standard NTSC/PAL component modes (see
Performs Colour Depth Upscaling in all modes
Automatic SD/HD color-space selection
Accept third party accessories on its output
Lowest power consumption of any converter
Software upgradeable (EDID and Firmware)
Custom profiling to match any display requirements or to limit output resolution
Screen position adjustment through firmware
Smaller and is able to handle and include more technology innovations than the
original HDfury
INPUT: Digital HDMI 19p FEMALE Port (100% digital)
OUTPUT: Analog RGBHV or Component (YPbPr/YCbCr) via HD-15 D-Sub (VGA
style) MALE connector
Supports *ANY* resolution and refresh rate in RGB mode up to 1920x1080/60Hz.
Includes all of the popular HDTV resolutions including:
Supports the following HDTV resolutions in component mode:
480i/480p/576i/576p/720p/1080i/1080p24/48/50/60 compatible
User Selectable RGBHV / Component (YPbPr/YCbCr) output with a switch
A HDMI -> HDMI cable is used to connect to an HDMI source
RGB 4:4:4 (8 bits) digital input
YCbCr 4:4:4 or 4:2:2 digital input
Compatible with non-HDCP (DVI-D) or HDCP sources
Compatible with any RGB Display
Compatible with any YUV Display
Directly connects to a display's VGA (RGB) 15 pin D-Sub input
Directly connects to a display's Component (YPbPr/YCbCr) input using included
breakout cable
Takes less then 1 minute to install (Plug & Play)
11bit 200MHz data processing
Triple 11bit 200Mhz video DAC
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RGB-H/V Male Port D-SUB 15 Output video analog signals (0.7Vpp (RGB) /
1Vpp (YPbPr) over 75 ohms impedance)
Ultra short Analog links (<1 cm) on the HDfury2 for optimal quality
HDMI video bandwidth: 25-165MHz
HDMI Data Rate - Bandwidth 1.5 Gbit/sec (Single link)
Supports all HD/SDTV formats from 1080p down to 480i
HDTV ready (480i/480p/576i/576p/720p/1080i/1080p48/50/60 compatible)
DVI 1.0 compliant
HDMI 1.1 and 1.2 ready
HDMI 1.3 interoperable
HDCP compatible with embedded keys loaded
HDCP ready
Reprogrammable Firmware (with specialized tools)
Screen position adjustable through Firmware and Custom Profile
Accepts third party accessories on output such as the GAMMA-X (Gamma
Automatic Input Format Detection: Digital YCbCr and RGBHV
Full dynamic range for all input modes to maximize the level of detail
Automatically switches color-spaces for both HDTV (Rec.709) and SDTV
Precise black levels - no black crush in any standard mode
Stereo High-Quality Analog Audio Output
Stereo High-Quality Digital/Optical Audio Output (S/PDIF format)
HD-DVD and Blu-Ray Disc player compatible
Playstation3 and Xbox360 compatible
Satellite and Cable set-top box compatible for HDTV
HDMI or DVI-D video graphics card compatible
HDCP compatible with embedded keys loaded
Energy management : DVI and VESA DPMS compatible
Ultra low power consumption in Standby (3,5mA)
Maximum power : 0.37A under 5V (at 1080p/60)
On-board DC/DC converter (1.8V) with extra-low EMI signature
Power +5V from DVI/HDMI
Blue LED to display active digital link and power status
Small size : 75x56mm cabinet
100% ROHS compliant (Restriction of Hazardous Substances Directive)
Installation: The HDfury2 module may be DIRECTLY screwed to the back of the
display into the VGA SUB-D plug.
Shortest RGB and Component (YPbPr) analog video link as possible.
HDCP rules compliant: No end-user access to decrypted analog video. Once
screwed, this module becomes "a part of the display itself".
Professional factory made (mass-production) using pick/place and reflow/wave
solder pro equipment.
Gold Plated connectors, tracks and material
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Full aluminium case with thermal dissipation
(Optional) +5v input and power supply
EDID detective feature: EDID eprom can be reprogrammed using a computer
through the graphics card (feature reserved for professionals)
Internal EDID EEPROM with complete CEA861 extension block
One year warranty
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