Social Housing A5 Pocket guide v4.indd

Social Housing A5 Pocket guide v4.indd
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CONTENTS.
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THE IDEAL PRODUCT RANGE
LOGIC COMBI
LOGIC SYSTEM
LOGIC HEAT
LOGIC CODE COMBI ES
LOGIC COMBI ES
CONTROLS
LPG CONVERSION KITS
FLUE SITING
ACCESSORIES
CONTACT IDEAL
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THE IDEAL
PRODUCT
RANGE.
Representing the next generation in heating design,
the Logic range of boilers offers state-of-the-art
technology in a practical, compact unit that fits
easily into any standard kitchen cupboard.
Available in a range of outputs, the Logic
range comes complete with a flexible parts
and labour warranty package.
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LOGIC COMBI
Designed to be installed with minimal fuss.
LOGIC SYSTEM
A simple and reliable solution for a wide
variety of sealed domestic systems.
LOGIC HEAT ONLY
Highly efficient and easy to operate, thanks
to straightforward controls featuring a clear
digital display.
LOGIC CODE COMBI ES
A simple one box solution, capable of supporting
up to level 4 of the code for sustainable homes
with built in flue gas heat recovery.
LOGIC COMBI ES
A high efficiency combination boiler
particularly beneficial for small, social new
build properties.
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LOGIC COMBI.
24 30 35
HIGH EFFICIENCY
COMBINATION BOILERS.
Designed to be installed with the minimum of
fuss Logic appliances offer a speedy installation.
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Compact
LPG
Conversion Kit*
Frost
Protection
Flue
Variants
NOx
Class 5
Flexible
Warranty
LOGIC COMBI
• Pre-heat function
• 75mm deep translucent condensate siphon
• Clear alpha-numeric display
• Fully modulating operation to low outputs
• Automatic bypass
• Four optional language user instructions**
• Visually impaired user fascia option
RELIABLE
• Energy Saving Trust endorsed product
• Flexible warranty
• Boiler frost protection
• Built-in, easy to use filling loop
• Simple diverter valve design
• Two stage flame sensing for greater reliability
• Latest generation Honeywell gas valve
• Prepared for 2015 EU legislation
EASY TO INSTALL
• Compact cupboard fit
• Fast fix flues
• Wide range of additional flueing options
• Low lift weight (32kg)
• Easy access to PRV and AAV
• Preformed copper tails
• Pre-wired mains lead (2m)
• Universal condensate connection
• Stand-off kit including piping option
• Compatible with a range of additional controls
inc. weather compensation
• LPG conversion kit available for 30 kW boilers
* Available with 30 kW model.
** Available to download from www.idealboilers.com
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CLEARANCES AND DIMENSIONS.
2.5
from case
2.5
395
278
165
Flue
terminal
700
100*
400
2.5
from case
2.5
395
Note: The minimum front clearance when built-in to a
cupboard is 5mm from the cupboard door but 450mm
overall clearance with the cupboard door open is
required for servicing.
8 be reduced to
278 clearance after installation27
*Bottom
can
5mm. However, 100mm is required for servicing.
Direct
rear
flue
terminal
165**
Flue
terminal
FLUE LENGTHS.
COMBI 24
COMBI 30
COMBI 35
9m
8m
6m
700
Max horizontal**
Max vertical**
7.5m
Powered vertical†
22m
100*
08
400
TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION.
COMBI 24
COMBI 30
Height mm
700
Width mm
395
Depth mm
278
COMBI 35
Weight (packaged) kg
36.3
36.5
36.5
Max installation weight kg
31.8
32
32
CH output (kW) min/max
@ 70°C
4.8 - 24.2
6.1 - 24.2
7.1 - 24.2
CH output (kW) min/max
@ 40°C
5.1 - 25.6
6.4 - 25.6
7.5 - 25.6
DHW output (kW) max
24.2
30.3
35.3
DHW flow rate l/min.
35°C rise
9.9
12.4
14.5
SEDBUK rating (2005) %
91.0
91.1
91.0
SEDBUK rating (2009) %
89.0
89.0
88.9
NOx classification
Adjustable to LPG
CLASS 5
No
Yes
No
Available flue extensions 0.5m, 1m and 2m. Available kits: high level flue outlet kit.
** Each 90° elbow used is at the expense of 1000mm of straight flue run,
and each 45° elbow is used at the expense of 600mm of straight flue run.
† Typical combined primary and secondary length. See installation instructions
for more details. Note: The Flue Deflector Kit is used at the expense
of 1000mm of straight flue run.
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TROUBLESHOOTING.
POINTS FOR THE
BOILER USER
Note. In line with our current
warranty policy we would ask that
you check through the following
guide to identify any problems
external to the boiler prior to
requesting a service engineers visit.
Should the problem be found to be
other than with the appliance we
reserve the right to levy a charge for
the visit, or for any pre-arranged visit
where access is not gained by the
engineer.
NO HOT WATER
Check the mains switch (fused spur)
is turned on and ensure switch mode
control knob (D) (Control Panels: 46) is
in the summer or winter position
Is water coming out of the hot water
tap when turned on?
YES
See boiler “Fault Codes” section. If ‘0’ is
displayed then contact Ideal Customer
Services Helpline if your appliance is
under warranty or a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer, in IE a Registered
Gas Installer (RGII), if out of warranty
Contact a Gas Safe Registered Engineer
or in IE a Registered Gas Installer (RGII)
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NO
NO CENTRAL HEATING
NO HOT WATER OR
CENTRAL HEATING
Check the mains switch (fused
spur) is turned on and ensure
switch mode control knob (D)
(Control Panels: 46) is in the
winter position
Check the fused spur is
turned on and ensure
switch mode control
knob (D) (Control
Panels: 46) is in the
winter position
Check the programmer (internal
or external to the boiler) is in
an “ON” position and the room
thermostat is turned up
Does the boiler operate and
provide central heating?
YES
Check the time settings on the
programmer are as you require
and adjust if necessary
See boiler “Operation Modes” and
“Fault Codes” section. If “0” is
displayed then contact a Gas
Safe Registered Engineer or in IE
a Registered Gas Installer (RGII)
Does the boiler have a
display showing on the
front control panel?
NO
See boiler “Operation
Modes” and “Fault Codes”
section
Contact a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer or
in IE a Registered Gas
Installer (RGII)
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OPERATIONS MODE.
DISPLAY CODE
ON THE BOILER
DESCRIPTION
The boiler is in standby mode awaiting either a central heating call or hot water
demand.
The boiler has a call for central heating but the appliance has reached the desired
temperature set on the boiler.
The boiler has a call for hot water but the appliance has reached the desired
temperature set on the boiler.
The boiler is operating in central heating mode.
The boiler is operating in hot water mode.
The boiler is operating in pre-heat mode.
The boiler is operating in frost mode.
FAULT CODES.
DISPLAY CODE ON THE BOILER
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DESCRIPTION
ACTION
Outside sensor
failure
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact
a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
Low mains voltage
Contact a qualified electrician or your electricity provider.
Unconfigured PCB
Unconfigured PCB. Please contact Ideal (if under warranty) or
alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the
warranty period. In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
Boiler resets in
15 minutes
1. Turn power off and on at the fused spur.
2. If the boiler fails to operate please contact Ideal (if under
warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside
of the warranty period. In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII).
FAULT CODES.
DISPLAY CODE ON THE BOILER
DESCRIPTION
ACTION
False flame lockout
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact
a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
BCC activation fault
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact
a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
BCC fault
Check the correct BCC is fitted for the boiler, and securely inserted
into the slot at the front left of the PCB. (Identified by the label on the
BCC). If yes then replace the current BCC with a new one correctly
labelled for the boiler. If it is incorrect (turn off the power) then insert
correctly into PCB after switching power back on restart the boiler.
Low water pressure
Check system pressure is between 1 & 1.5bar on the pressure gauge.
If the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal (if under
warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside
of the warranty period. In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
Flow temperature
overheat or no
water flow
Is the boiler and CH heating system filled and all isolation vales
and radiators open? If not then fill and vent the system and open
all isolation valves and restart the boiler. Check that the pumps are
rotating freely and the flow and return have a differential across the
boiler in excess of 30°C.
Flame loss
1. Check other gas appliances in the house are working to confirm a
supply is present in the property.
2. If other appliances do not work or there are no other appliances,
check the gas supply is on at the meter and/or pre payment meter
has credit. If the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal (if
under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer
if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact a Registered Gas
Installer (RGII).
Fan fault
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact
a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
Flow thermistor
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact
a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
Return thermistor
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact
a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
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LOGIC SYSTEM.
15 18 24 30
HIGH EFFICIENCY
SYSTEM BOILERS.
The Logic system range of appliances from Ideal provide
a simple and reliable solution for a wide variety of sealed
domestic systems.
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Compact
LPG
Conversion Kit*
Frost
Protection
Flue
Variants
NOx
Class 5
Flexible
Warranty
LOGIC SYSTEM
• Digital display and simple diagnostics
• Fully modulating operation down to 4.8 kW
• Weather compensation kit option
RELIABLE
• Energy Saving Trust endorsed product
• Flexible warranty
• Boiler frost protection
• Built-in condensate trap
• Latest generation Honeywell gas valve
• Prepared for 2015 EU legislation
• Two stage flame sensing for better reliability
EASY TO INSTALL
• Compact cupboard fit
• Wide range of flueing options
• Concealed pipe connections
• Low lift weight (28kg)†
• Preformed copper tails
• LPG Conversion kit available for 30 kW boilers
• Stand-off kit and pre-pipe options
• Pre-wired mains lead
• Easy Access to PRV and AAV
• Universal condensate connection
* Available with 30 kW model.
† Weight with front panel removed.
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100*
400
CLEARANCES AND DIMENSIONS.
2.5
from case
2.5
395
278
165
Flue
terminal
700
100*
400
Note: The minimum front clearance when built-in to a
cupboard is 5mm from the cupboard door but 450mm
overall clearance with the cupboard door open is
required for servicing.
*Bottom clearance after installation can be reduced to
5mm. However, 100mm is required for servicing.
FLUE LENGTHS.
SYSTEM 15
Max horizontal
SYSTEM 18
9m
Max vertical
7.5m
Powered vertical
22m
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TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION.
SYSTEM 15
SYSTEM 18
Height mm
700
Width mm
395
Depth mm
278
Weight (packaged) kg
34.1
Max installation weight kg
27.7
SYSTEM 24
SYSTEM 30
CH output (kW)
min/max @ 70°C
4.8 - 15.0
4.8 - 18.0
4.8 - 24.2
6.1 - 30.3
CH output (kW)
min/max @ 40°C
5.1 - 15.9
5.1 - 19.1
5.1 - 25.6
6.4 - 31.0
DHW output (kW) max
n/a
DHW flow rate l/min.
35°C rise
n/a
SEDBUK rating (2005) %
91.1
91
91
91.1
SEDBUK rating (2009) %
89.3
89.2
89.5
89.6
No
Yes
NOx classification
CLASS 5
Adjustable to LPG
No
SYSTEM 24
SYSTEM 30
9m
8m
No
Available kits: high
level flue outlet kit.
7.5m
22m
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TROUBLESHOOTING.
POINTS FOR THE
BOILER USER
Note. In line with our current warranty
policy we would ask that you check
through the following guide to identify any
problems external to the boiler prior to
requesting a service engineers visit. Should
the problem be found to be other than
with the appliance we reserve the right to
levy a charge for the visit, or for any prearranged visit where access is not gained
by the engineer.
NO HOT WATER
Check the mains switch (fused
spur) is turned on and ensure mode
control knob (B) (Control Panels: 46)
is in the ON position
Check the programmer is in an “ON”
position and the cylinder
thermostat is turned up
Does the boiler operate and
provide hot water?
YES
Check the time settings on the
programmer are as you require
and adjust if necessary
See boiler “Operation Modes” and
“Fault Codes” section. If “0” is
displayed then contact a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer or in IE a
Registered Gas Installer (RGII)
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NO
NO CENTRAL HEATING
Check the mains switch (fused
spur) is turned on and ensure
mode control knob (B) (Control
Panels: 46) is in the
ON position
Check the programmer is in
an “ON” position and the room
thermostat is turned up
Does the boiler operate and
provide central heating?
NO
YES
Check the time settings on the
programmer are as you require
and adjust if necessary
See boiler “Operation Modes”
and “Fault Codes” section. If “0”
is displayed then contact a Gas
Safe Registered Engineer or in
IE a Registered Gas Installer
(RGII)
OPERATIONS MODE.
DISPLAY CODE
ON THE BOILER
DESCRIPTION
The boiler is in standby mode awaiting either a central heating call or hot water
demand.
The boiler has a call for central heating / hot water but the appliance has reached the
desired temperature set on the boiler.
The boiler is operating for central heating / hot water.
The boiler is operating in frost mode.
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FAULT CODES.
DISPLAY CODE ON THE BOILER
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DESCRIPTION
ACTION
Boiler chip card
(BCC)
not fitted
Please contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact
a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
Outside sensor
failure
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please contact
Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered
Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact a Registered
Gas Installer (RGII).
Low mains voltage
Contact a qualified electrician or your electricity provider.
PCB fault
PCB Fault. Please contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively
a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In
IE contact a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
Boiler resets in 15
minutes
1. Turn power off and on at the fused spur.
2. If the boiler fails to operate please contact Ideal (if under
warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside
of the warranty period. In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer
(RGII).
False flame lockout
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact
a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
BCC activation fault
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact
a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
BCC fault
Check system pressure is between 1 & 1.5 bar on the pressure
gauge. If the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal (if
under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer
if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact a Registered Gas
Installer (RGII).
DISPLAY CODE ON THE BOILER
DESCRIPTION
ACTION
Low water pressure
Check system pressure is between 1 & 1.5bar on the pressure
gauge. If the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal (if
under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer
if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact a Registered Gas
Installer (RGII).
Flow temperature
overheat
Is the boiler and CH heating system filled and all isolation vales
and radiators open? If not then fill and vent the system and open
all isolation valves and restart the boiler. Check that the pumps are
rotating freely and the flow and return have a differential across the
boiler in excess of 30°C.
Flame loss
1. Check other gas appliances in the house are working to confirm a
supply is present in the property.
2. If other appliances do not work or there are no other appliances,
check the gas supply is on at the meter and/or pre payment meter
has credit. If the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal (if
under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer
if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact a Registered Gas
Installer (RGII).
Fan fault
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact
a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
Control / no flow
thermistor
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact
a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
Return thermistor
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact
a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
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LOGIC HEAT.
12 15 18 24 30
HIGH EFFICIENCY
HEAT BOILERS.
Designed to be installed with the minimum of
fuss Logic appliances offer a speedy installation.
Compact
LPG
Conversion Kit*
Frost
Protection
Flue
Variants
NOx
Class 5
Flexible
Warranty
Direct Rear
Flue
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LOGIC HEAT
• Fully modulating operation down to 4.8 kW**
• Weather compensation kit option
• Water flow sensor
• Four optional language user instructions*2
RELIABLE
• Energy Saving Trust endorsed product
• Flexible warranty
• Boiler frost protection
• Two stage flame sensing for greater reliability
• Latest generation Honeywell gas valve
EASY TO INSTALL
• Compact cupboard fit
• Direct 80mm diameter rear flue option
• Wide range of flueing options
• Low lift weight (23kg)†
• Top system connections
• 75mm deep translucent condensate siphon
• Stand-off kit
• Terminal wall plate kit
• Security bracket kit
• Low minimum head requirement
• LPG conversion kit available for 30 kW boilers
* Available with 30 kW model. ** (30 kW only - 6.1 kW).
*2 Available to download from www.idealboilers.com
† Weight with front panel removed.
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100*
400
CLEARANCES AND DIMENSIONS.
2.5
from case
2.5
278
278
395
Direct
rear
flue
terminal
165**
Flue
terminal
700
100*
400
2.5
from case
2.5
Note: The minimum front clearance when built-in to
a cupboard is 5mm from the cupboard door but 450mm
overall clearance with the cupboard door open is
required for servicing.
395
165
278
*Bottom clearance after installation can be reduced
to 5mm. However, 100mm is required for servicing.
** Rear flue option - top clearance 100mm.
FLUE LENGTHS.
Flue
terminal
HEAT 12
700
Max horizontal
HEAT 15
HEAT 18
9m
Max vertical
7.5m
Powered vertical
22m
100*
24
400
TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION.
HEAT 12
HEAT 15
HEAT 18
Height mm
700
Width mm
395
Depth mm
278
Weight (packaged) kg
28.7
Max installation weight kg
23.0
HEAT 24
HEAT 30
CH output (kW)
min/max @ 70°C
4.8 - 12.0
4.8 - 15.0
4.8 - 18.0
4.8 - 24.2
6.1 - 30.3
CH output (kW)
min/max @ 40°C
5.1 - 13.0
5.1 - 15.9
5.1 - 19.1
5.1 - 25.6
6.4 - 31.0
DHW output (kW) max
n/a
DHW flow rate l/min.
35°C rise
n/a
SEDBUK rating (2005) %
91.2
91.1
91
91
91.1
SEDBUK rating (2009) %
89.4
89.3
89.2
89.5
89.6
No
Yes
NOx classification
CLASS 5
Adjustable to LPG
HEAT 24
No
HEAT 30
No
No
Available kits: high level flue outlet
kit and direct rear flue kit (55/80).
8m
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TROUBLESHOOTING.
POINTS FOR THE BOILER USER
Note. In line with our current warranty policy we would ask that you check
through the following guide to identify any problems external to the boiler
prior to requesting a service engineers visit. Should the problem be found to
be other than with the appliance we reserve the right to levy a charge for the
visit, or for any pre-arranged visit where access is not gained by the engineer.
NO CENTRAL HEATING OR
HOT WATER
Check the mains switch (fused
spur) is turned on and ensure
mode control knob (B)
(Control Panels: 47) is in the
ON position
Check the Timer is in an
“ON” position, and the room
thermostat is turned up
Does the boiler operate and
provide central heating?
YES
Check the time settings on the
programmer are as you require
and adjust if necessary
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NO
See boiler “Operation Modes”
and “Fault Codes” section. If “0”
is displayed then contact a Gas
Safe Registered Engineer or in
IE a Registered Gas Installer
(RGII)
OPERATIONS MODE.
DISPLAY CODE
ON THE BOILER
DESCRIPTION
The boiler is in standby mode awaiting either a central heating call or hot water
demand.
The boiler has a call for central heating / hot water but the appliance has reached the
desired temperature set on the boiler.
The boiler is operating for central heating / hot water.
The boiler is operating in frost mode.
FAULT CODES.
DISPLAY CODE ON THE BOILER
DESCRIPTION
ACTION
BCC activation fault Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE
contact a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
BCC fault
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE
contact a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
Unconfigured PCB
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE
contact a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
Flame loss
See Action - Fault Code L 2.
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FAULT CODES.
DISPLAY CODE ON THE BOILER
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DESCRIPTION
ACTION
Fan fault
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact
a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
Flow thermistor
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact
a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
Return thermistor
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact
a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
Outside sensor
failure
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact
a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
Low mains voltage
Contact a qualified electrician or your electricity provider.
PCB fault
Please contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact
a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
Flow/return
reversed
Please contact a Gas Safe Registered Engineer. In IE contact a
Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
No water flow
Please contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact
a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
DISPLAY CODE ON THE BOILER
DESCRIPTION
ACTION
Flow temperature
overheat
or
unconfigured PCB
Check system pressure is between 1 & 1.5bar on the pressure
gauge. If the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal (if
under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer
if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact a Registered Gas
Installer (RGII).
Ignition lockout
1. Check other gas appliances in the house are working to
confirm a supply is present in the property.
2. If other appliances do not work or there are no other
appliances, check the gas supply is on at the meter and/or pre
payment meter has credit. If the boiler fails to operate then
please contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas
Safe Registered engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE
contact a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
Boiler resets in
15 minutes
1. Turn power off and on at the fused spur.
2. If the boiler fails to operate please contact Ideal (if under
warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if
outside of the warranty period. In IE contact a Registered
Gas Installer (RGII).
False flame lockout
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE
contact a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
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LOGIC
CODE COMBI ES.
26 33 38
HIGH EFFICIENCY
COMBINATION BOILERS.
Designed to take the headache out of meeting Building
Regulations, the Logic Code Combi ES from Ideal is a simple
one-box solution, capable of supporting up to level 4 of the
Code for Sustainable homes.
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Compact
LPG
Conversion Kit*
Frost
Protection
Flue
Variants
NOx
Class 5
Flexible
Warranty
LOGIC CODE COMBI ES
• Complete range of Logic combination
boilers for social new build developers
• Achieves optimum SAP and DER ratings
for standard combination boiler usage
• Higher DHW flow rates than standard boiler
– approximately 10% increase
RELIABLE
• Energy Saving Trust endorsed product
• Flexible warranty
• High DHW efficiency - reduced running costs
• Less waste DHW water as DHW inlet is preheated
• Reduced pluming on DHW
EASY TO INSTALL
• One single appliance to install – quick and easy
• Built-in pipework; no extra space at the side
of the product needed
• Standard combination connections
• No additional maintenance requirement
• Compact and light solution for social new build
or retrofit installations
* Available with 38 kW model.
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CLEARANCES AND DIMENSIONS.
2.5
from case
2.5
395
278
165
de
Flue
terminal
830
100*
400
Note: The minimum front clearance when built-in to
a cupboard is 5mm from the cupboard door but 450mm
overall clearance with the cupboard door open is
required for servicing.
*Bottom clearance after installation can be reduced
to 5mm. However, 100mm is required for servicing.
FLUE LENGTHS.
Max horizontal**
CODE COMBI ES 26
CODE COMBI ES 33
CODE COMBI ES 38
9m
8m
6m
Max vertical**
7.5m
Powered vertical†
22m
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TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION.
CODE COMBI
ES 26
CODE COMBI
ES 33
Height mm
830
Width mm
395
Depth mm
278
CODE COMBI
ES 38
Weight (packaged) kg
41.3
41.4
41.6
Max installation weight kg
35.9
36.0
36.2
CH output (kW) min/max
@ 70°C
4.8 - 24.2
6.1 - 24.2
7.1 - 24.2
CH output (kW) min/max
@ 40°C
5.1 - 25.6
6.4 - 25.6
7.5 - 25.6
DHW output (kW) max
26.1
32.7
38.2
DHW flow rate l/min.
35°C rise
10.7
13.4
15.7
SEDBUK rating (2005) %
91
91.1
91
SEDBUK rating (2009) %
89.0
89.0
88.9
NOx classification
Adjustable to LPG
CLASS 5
No
No
Yes
Available flue extensions 0.5m, 1m and 2m. Available kits: high level flue outlet kit.
** Each 90° elbow used is at the expense of 1000mm of straight flue run,
and each 45° elbow is used at the expense of 600mm of straight flue run.
† Typical combined primary and secondary length. See installation instructions
for more details. Note: The Flue Deflector Kit is used at the expense
of 1000mm of straight flue run.
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TROUBLESHOOTING.
POINTS FOR THE
BOILER USER
Note. In line with our current
warranty policy we would ask that
you check through the following
guide to identify any problems
external to the boiler prior to
requesting a service engineers visit.
Should the problem be found to be
other than with the appliance we
reserve the right to levy a charge for
the visit, or for any pre-arranged visit
where access is not gained by the
engineer.
NO HOT WATER
Check the mains switch (fused spur)
is turned on and ensure switch mode
control knob (D) (Control Panels: 47)
is in the summer or winter position
Is water coming out of the hot water
tap when turned on?
YES
See boiler “Fault Codes” section. If ‘0’ is
displayed then contact Ideal Customer
Services Helpline if your appliance is
under warranty or a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer, in IE a Registered
Gas Installer (RGII), if out of warranty
Contact a Gas Safe Registered Engineer
or in IE a Registered Gas Installer (RGII)
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NO
NO CENTRAL HEATING
NO HOT WATER OR
CENTRAL HEATING
Check the mains switch (fused
spur) is turned on and ensure
switch mode control knob (D)
(Control Panels: 47) is in the
winter position
Check the fused spur is
turned on and ensure
switch mode control
knob (D) (Control
Panels: 47) is in the
winter position
Check the programmer (internal
or external to the boiler) is in
an “ON” position and the room
thermostat is turned up
Does the boiler operate and
provide central heating?
YES
Does the boiler have a
display showing on the
front control panel?
NO
NO
YES
See boiler “Operation
Modes” and “Fault Codes”
section
Check the time settings on the
programmer are as you require
and adjust if necessary
See boiler “Operation Modes” and
“Fault Codes” section. If “0” is
displayed then contact a Gas
Safe Registered Engineer or in IE
a Registered Gas Installer (RGII)
Contact a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer or
in IE a Registered Gas
Installer (RGII)
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OPERATIONS MODE.
DISPLAY CODE
ON THE BOILER
DESCRIPTION
The boiler is in standby mode awaiting either a central heating call or hot water
demand.
The boiler has a call for central heating but the appliance has reached the desired
temperature set on the boiler.
The boiler has a call for hot water but the appliance has reached the desired
temperature set on the boiler.
The boiler is operating in central heating mode.
The boiler is operating in hot water mode.
The boiler is operating in frost mode.
FAULT CODES.
DISPLAY CODE ON THE BOILER
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DESCRIPTION
ACTION
Outside sensor
failure
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contactIdeal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE
contact a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
Low mains voltage
Contact a qualified electrician or your electricty provider.
Unconfigured PCB
Unconfigured PCB. Please contact Ideal (if under warranty) or
alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the
warranty period. In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
No water flow
thermistor
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE
contact a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
FAULT CODES.
DISPLAY CODE ON THE BOILER
DESCRIPTION
ACTION
Boiler resets in
15 minutes
1. Turn power off and on at the fused spur.
2. If the boiler fails to operate please contact Ideal (if under warranty)
or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the
warranty period. In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
False flame lockout
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE
contact a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
BCC activation fault
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE
contact a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
BCC fault
Check the correct BCC is fitted for the boiler, and securely
inserted into the slot at the front left of the PCB. (Identified by
the label on the BCC). If yes then replace the current BCC with a
new one correctly labelled for the boiler. If it is incorrect (turn off
the power) then insert correctly into PCB after switching power
back on restart the boiler.
Low water pressure
Check system pressure is between 1 & 1.5bar on the pressure
gauge. If the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal (if
under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer
if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact a Registered Gas
Installer (RGII).
Flow temperature
overheat
Is the boiler and CH heating system filled and all isolation vales
and radiators open? If not then fill and vent the system and open
all isolation valves and restart the boiler. Check that the pumps are
rotating freely and the flow and return have a differential across the
boiler in excess of 30°C.
No water flow
Flame loss
1. Check other gas appliances in the house are working to confirm a
supply is present in the property.
2. If other appliances do not work or there are no other appliances,
check the gas supply is on at the meter and/or pre payment meter
has credit. If the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal (if
under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer
if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact a Registered Gas
Installer (RGII).
Fan fault
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE
contact a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
Flow thermistor
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE
contact a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
Return thermistor
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE
contact a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
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LOGIC COMBI ES.
24 30 35
HIGH EFFICIENCY
COMBINATION BOILERS.
Optimised for new build compliance following the SAP
2009 design procedure, the Logic Combi ES is particularly
beneficial for new build properties.
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Compact
LPG
Conversion Kit*
Frost
Protection
Flue
Variants
NOx
Class 5
Flexible
Warranty
LOGIC COMBI ES
• Complete range of Logic combination
boilers for social new build developers
• Achieves optimum SAP and DER ratings
for standard combination boiler usage
• 75mm deep translucent condensate siphon
• Fully modulating operation to low outputs
• Automatic bypass
RELIABLE
• Energy Saving Trust endorsed product
• Flexible warranty
• Boiler frost protection
• Built-in, easy to use filling loop
• Simple diverter valve design
• Two stage flame sensing for greater reliability
• Latest generation Honeywell gas valve
• Prepared for 2015 EU legislation
EASY TO INSTALL
• Compact cupboard fit
• Fast fix flues
• Wide range of additional flueing options
• Low lift weight (32kg)
• Easy access to PRV and AAV
• Preformed copper tails
• Pre-wired mains lead (2m)
• Universal condensate connection
• Stand-off kit including piping option
• Compatible with a range of additional controls
inc. weather compensation
• LPG conversion kit available for 30 kW boilers
* Available with 30 kW model.
39
CLEARANCES AND DIMENSIONS.
2.5
from case
2.5
395
278
165
Flue
terminal
700
100*
400
Note: The minimum front clearance when built-in to a
cupboard is 5mm from the cupboard door but 450mm
2.5
from case overall clearance with the cupboard
open is required
27door
8
278
2.5
for servicing.
395
Direct
165**
rear
*Bottom clearance after installation can be reduced
to
5mm. However, 100mm is required for servicing. flue
terminal
Flue
terminal
FLUE LENGTHS.
COMBI ES 24
COMBI ES 30
COMBI ES 35
9m
8m
6m
700
Max horizontal**
Max vertical**
7.5m
Powered vertical†
22m
100*
40
400
TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION.
COMBI ES 24
COMBI ES 30
Height mm
700
Width mm
395
Depth mm
278
COMBI ES 35
Weight (packaged) kg
36.3
36.5
36.5
Max installation weight kg
31.8
32
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CH output (kW) min/max
@ 70°C
4.8 - 24.2
6.1 - 24.2
7.1 - 24.2
CH output (kW) min/max
@ 40°C
5.1 - 25.6
6.4 - 25.6
7.5 - 25.6
DHW output (kW) max
24.2
30.3
35.3
DHW flow rate l/min.
35°C rise
9.9
12.4
14.5
SEDBUK rating (2005) %
91.0
91.1
91.0
SEDBUK rating (2009) %
89.0
89.0
88.9
NOx classification
Adjustable to LPG
CLASS 5
No
Yes
No
Available flue extensions 0.5m, 1m and 2m. Available kits: high level flue outlet kit.
** Each 90° elbow used is at the expense of 1000mm of straight flue run,
and each 45° elbow is used at the expense of 600mm of straight flue run.
† Typical combined primary and secondary length. See installation instructions
for more details. Note: The Flue Deflector Kit is used at the expense
of 1000mm of straight flue run.
41
TROUBLESHOOTING.
POINTS FOR THE
BOILER USER
Note. In line with our current
warranty policy we would ask that
you check through the following
guide to identify any problems
external to the boiler prior to
requesting a service engineers visit.
Should the problem be found to be
other than with the appliance we
reserve the right to levy a charge for
the visit, or for any pre-arranged visit
where access is not gained by the
engineer.
NO HOT WATER
Check the mains switch (fused spur)
is turned on and ensure switch mode
control knob (D) (Control Panels: 47)
is in the summer or winter position
Is water coming out of the hot water
tap when turned on?
YES
See boiler “Fault Codes” section. If ‘0’ is
displayed then contact Ideal Customer
Services Helpline if your appliance is
under warranty or a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer, in IE a Registered
Gas Installer (RGII), if out of warranty
Contact a Gas Safe Registered Engineer
or in IE a Registered Gas Installer (RGII)
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NO
NO CENTRAL HEATING
NO HOT WATER OR
CENTRAL HEATING
Check the mains switch (fused
spur) is turned on and ensure
switch mode control knob (D)
(Control Panels: 47) is in the
winter position
Check the fused spur is
turned on and ensure
switch mode control
knob (D) (Control
Panels: 47) is in the
winter position
Check the programmer (internal
or external to the boiler) is in
an “ON” position and the room
thermostat is turned up
Does the boiler operate and
provide central heating?
YES
Does the boiler have a
display showing on the
front control panel?
NO
NO
YES
See boiler “Operation
Modes” and “Fault Codes”
section
Check the time settings on the
programmer are as you require
and adjust if necessary
See boiler “Operation Modes” and
“Fault Codes” section. If “0” is
displayed then contact a Gas
Safe Registered Engineer or in IE
a Registered Gas Installer (RGII)
Contact a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer or
in IE a Registered Gas
Installer (RGII)
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OPERATIONS MODE.
DISPLAY CODE
ON THE BOILER
DESCRIPTION
The boiler is in standby mode awaiting either a central heating call or hot water
demand.
The boiler has a call for central heating but the appliance has reached the desired
temperature set on the boiler.
The boiler has a call for hot water but the appliance has reached the desired
temperature set on the boiler.
The boiler is operating in central heating mode.
The boiler is operating in hot water mode.
The boiler is operating in frost mode.
FAULT CODES.
DISPLAY CODE ON THE BOILER
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DESCRIPTION
ACTION
Outside sensor
failure
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact
a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
Low mains voltage
Contact a qualified electrician or your electricity provider.
Unconfigured PCB
Unconfigured PCB. Please contact Ideal (if under warranty) or
alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside of the
warranty period. In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
Boiler resets in
15 minutes
1. Turn power off and on at the fused spur.
2. If the boiler fails to operate please contact Ideal (if under
warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside
of the warranty period. In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer RGII).
False flame lockout
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact
a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
FAULT CODES.
DISPLAY CODE ON THE BOILER
DESCRIPTION
ACTION
BCC activation fault
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact
a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
BCC fault
Check the correct BCC is fitted for the boiler, and securely inserted
into the slot at the front left of the PCB. (Identified by the label
on the BCC). If yes then replace the current BCC with a new one
correctly labelled for the boiler. If it is incorrect (turn off the power)
then insert correctly into PCB after switching power back on
restart the boiler.
Low water pressure
Check system pressure is between 1 & 1.5bar on the pressure gauge.
If the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal (if under
warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer if outside
of the warranty period. In IE contact a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
Flow temperature
overheat or no
water flow
Is the boiler and CH heating system filled and all isolation vales
and radiators open? If not then fill and vent the system and open
all isolation valves and restart the boiler. Check that the pumps are
rotating freely and the flow and return have a differential across the
boiler in excess of 30°C.
Flame loss
1. Check other gas appliances in the house are working to confirm a
supply is present in the property.
2. If other appliances do not work or there are no other appliances,
check the gas supply is on at the meter and/or pre payment meter
has credit. If the boiler fails to operate then please contact Ideal (if
under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe Registered Engineer
if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact a Registered Gas
Installer (RGII).
Fan fault
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact
a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
Flow thermistor
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact
a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
Return thermistor
Reset the appliance - if the boiler fails to operate then please
contact Ideal (if under warranty) or alternatively a Gas Safe
Registered Engineer if outside of the warranty period. In IE contact
a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
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BOILER CONTROLS.
LOGIC COMBI.
24 30 35
A
B
E
F
C J
D
BOILER CONTROLS
A. Pre-heat On/Off
B. DHW Temperature Control
C. CH Temperature Control
D. Mode Control
E. Boiler Status
F. Burner ‘on’ Indicator
G. Pressure Gauge
H. Condensate Drain
J. Economy Mode
H
G
LOGIC SYSTEM.
15 18 24 30
A
G C
D
B
BOILER CONTROLS
A. CH Temperature Control
B. Mode Control
C. Boiler Status
D. Burner ‘on’ Indicator
E. Pressure Gauge
F. Condensate Drain
G. Economy Mode
F
E
In normal operation the control unit (E) will show the following codes:
O - Standby - no demand for heat, C - Central Heating being supplied,
D - DHW being supplied, P - DHW preheat, F - Boiler frost protection
(boiler fires if temperature is below 5°C).
In normal operation the control unit (E) will show the following codes:
If the pressure is seen to fall below the original installation pressure of
1-2 bar over a period of time then a water leak may be indicated. In this
event conduct the re-pressurising procedure as shown on page 4 of
the User Manual.
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LOGIC HEAT.
12 15 18 24 30
BOILER CONTROLS
A. Temperature Control
B. Mode Control
C. Boiler Status
D. Burner ‘on’ Indicator
E. Condensate Drain
F.
Economy Mode
A
F C
D
B
E
LOGIC COMBI ES/ LOGIC CODE COMBI ES.
24 30 35
A
26 33 38
B
E
F
G
C
J
D
BOILER CONTROLS
A. Blank
B. DHW Temperature Control
C. CH Temperature Control
D. Mode Control
E. Boiler Status
F.
Burner ‘on’ Indicator
G. Pressure Gauge
H. Condensate Drain
J.
Economy Mode
H
WINTER OPERATION: COMBI.
1. Ensure gas and electric supplies are available and on
(i.e. card meters are topped up).
5. Control the heating times by using programmer/clock
and not by switching the boiler on and off.
2. Ensure boiler thermostat (C) is on and set 2/3rds of the
way round.
6. Preheat will operate with the preheat switch (A) set to
on.
3. Set room thermostat to desired temperature, normally
between 20-23°C.
7. For periods of intense cold leave the system on 24
hours a day. Switch the room thermostat down to 10°C
overnight. This will maintain comfort levels and ensure
the system doesn’t freeze.
4. Control individual room via Thermostatic Radiator
Valves. 1 - Low, 2 - Low/Average, 3 - Average,
4 - Average/High, 5 - High.
(FOR FULL INSTRUCTION DETAILS REFER TO THE
IDEAL LOGIC USERS GUIDE)
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COMBINATION BOILER
CONTROLS.
PROGRAMMABLE THERMOSTATS AND TIMERS.
Here at Ideal we believe that choosing the right control to meet the needs of your
customer is almost as important as choosing the right product; this is why our boilers
are fully compatible with a range of thermostats and timers for the ultimate in home
comfort.
MECHANICAL TIMER.
(Part No. 204839)
Simple heating control through a plug in
analogue timer. 24 hour tappet operation
with off/timed/continuous periods.
ELECTRONIC TIMER.
(Part No. 204545)
Easy to use heating control through a plug
in digital timer. Plain text operating and
diagnostics information. 7 day and up to 3
time periods/day. Automatic summer/
winter time update.
EXTERNAL
ROOM CONTROLS
RF MECHANICAL
PROGRAMMABLE
THERMOSTAT.
(Part No. 204824)
Image shown is 208774
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Wireless radio frequency (RF) analogue
timer and room thermostat providing
heat control. Easy to use 24 hour
tappet control.
RF MECHANICAL
TIMER AND ROOM
THERMOSTAT KITS.
(Part No. 208352)
Easy to use radio frequency timer (RF), complete
with room thermostat. The timer is prewired
with plug-in connections to the boiler wiring and
features a 24hr tappet operation with off/timed
continuous period.
The room thermostat can be freestanding or
wallmounted and has a compact design with LCD
display and simple symbols to indicate the control.
RF ELECTRONIC
PROGRAMMABLE
THERMOSTAT.
(Part No. 204789)
Wireless radio frequency (RF) digital
timer and room thermostat providing
heating control. 7 day, plain text operating
and diagnostics display. Automatic
summer/winter time update.
COMBI, HEAT ONLY & SYSTEM CONTROLS.
WEATHER COMPENSATION OUTDOOR SENSOR.
(Part No. 211326 - combi models only)
(Part No. 211332 - heat only and system models)
The Logic and Logic Code Combi ES ranges provide weather
compensation when fitted with an outdoor sensor (which is
available as an optional accessory). Weather compensation
works by measuring the temperature outside the home and
adjusting the temperature (or flow) of the radiators inside.
If the weather is particularly cold outside, the outdoor sensor
will communicate with the boiler intelligently to increase the
radiator temperature. This process also works in reverse, as
the outdoor temperature increases, the flow to the radiators
too will decrease. This process allows the system to operate
more efficiently by only heating to the minimum temperature
necessary and also preventing spikes in heating activity.
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LPG
CONVERSION KITS.
Designed for use with Logic combi, heat and system 30 kW boilers
and the new Code Combi ES 38 kW, the Ideal LPG (propane)
conversion kit provides a simple and robust gas conversion solution.
With kits available inclusive of natural gas to LPG kits, and LPG to
natural gas kits, these quick to install accessories provide a simple and
pragmatic solution without the need for products to be adjusted.
Each kit contains specific components for each required boiler type.
FEATURES.
• Available for all product types (combi, heat & system)
• Suitable for most property sizes
• Fast & simple conversion with preset gas valve for no
product adjustment
APPLICABLE MODELS.
•
•
•
•
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Logic Code Combi ES 38
Logic Combi & Combi ES 30
Logic Heat 30
Logic System 30
SPECIFICATION.
BOILER MODEL
COMBI
CODE
HEAT
SYSTEM
Min. output (kW)
8.0
8.7
8.0
8.0
Max. output (kW)
24.3
24.2
30.3
30.3
Max DHW output (kW)
30.3
38.2
N/A
N/A
PRODUCT NG - LPG CONVERSION KIT
CODE
211370
Logic Combi 30 NG-LPG conversion kit
211379
Logic Combi ES 30 NG-LPG conversion kit
210394
Logic Code Combi ES 38 NG-LPG conversion kit
211372
Logic Heat 30 NG-LPG conversion kit
211374
Logic System 30 NG-LPG conversion kit
PRODUCT LPG - NG CONVERSION KIT
CODE
177514
Logic Combi 30 LPG-NG conversion kit
177525
Logic Combi ES 30 LPG-NG conversion kit
177371
Logic Code Combi ES 38 LPG-NG conversion kit
177516
Logic Heat 30 LPG-NG conversion kit
177518
Logic System 30 LPG-NG conversion kit
NATURAL GAS TO LPG KIT CONTENTS
EACH KIT COMPRISES:
•
•
•
•
•
Gas valve (preset operation)
Burner injector
BCC (boiler chip card)
Data plate labels
Instructions
Use of the preset gas valve ensures the safety
feature of a non adjustable gas valve is retained
during conversion.
Two data plate labels are provided in the kits inclusive of a
new data plate providing LPG details and a label to retain
boiler serial number identity.
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FLUE SITING.
There are a substantial number of flueing options available with the Ideal ranges, giving
excellent siting flexibility for almost all applications.
The range of options include standard and telescopic flues as well as roof flue and powered
vertical flue options.
To ensure siting issues are kept to a minimum High Level Flue Outlet kit options and Flue
Deflector kits are available.
Minimum dimensions of flue terminal positions.
FLUE TERMINAL POSITION
MIN. SPACING
1. Directly below, above or alongside an opening window, air vent or other ventilation opening.
2. Below guttering, drain pipes or soil pipes.
300mm (12")
BS5440-1 2008
25mm (1")*
75mm (3")
BS5440-1 2008
25mm (1")*
200mm (8")
BS5440-1 2008
25mm (1")*
200mm (8")
BS5440-1 2008
25mm (1")*
150mm (6")
3. Below eaves.
4. Below balconies or car port roof.
5. From vertical drain pipes or soil pipes.
6. From an internal or external corner or to a boundary alongside the terminal.
BS5440-1 2008
300mm (12")
7. Above ground, roof or balcony level.
300mm (12")
8. From a surface or a boundary facing a terminal.
600mm (24")
9. From a terminal facing a terminal.
1200mm (48")
25mm (1")*
10. From an opening in a car port (eg. door or window) into dwelling.
1200mm (48")
11. Vertically from a terminal on the same wall.
1500mm (60")
12. Horizontally from a terminal on the wall.
300mm (12")
VERTICAL FLUES
13. Above the roof pitch with roof slope of all angles. Above flat roof.
300mm (12")
300mm (12")
14. From a single wall face.
From corner walls.
300mm (12")
300mm (12")
15. Below velux window.
16. Above or side of velux window.
2000mm (79")
600mm (24")
* Only one reduction down to 25mm is allowable per installation otherwise BS5440-1 2008 dimensions must be followed.
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1
13
7
15/16
4
14
2/3
12
8/9
12
1
11
6
6
11
5
6
7
10
300 mm
min
690 mm
fixed
Aluminium
shield
mm
300 mm 300 in
m
min
A
A
A
625 mm
fixed
07
98
RF
B
A = 600mm
B = 2000mm
The flue terminal shall not penetrate the shaded area of the roof.
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ACCESSORIES.
LOGIC COMBI (ES), SYSTEM & HEAT
FLUEING ACCESSORIES
IDEAL
PART NO.
COMBI
HEAT
SYSTEM
Telescopic B pack flue
208169
ü
ü
ü
Horizontal flue terminal
(600mm long)
208171
ü
ü
ü
Horizontal flue terminal
(1000mm long)
208174
ü
ü
ü
Flue elbow 90° kit (60/100)
packaged
203130
ü
ü
ü
Flue elbow 45° kit (60/100)
packaged (pair)
203131
ü
ü
ü
Flue extension 1000mm (Pack D)
203129
ü
ü
ü
Flue extension kit 500mm
(Pack D)
211037
ü
ü
ü
Flue extension kit 2000mm (Pack D)
211038
ü
ü
ü
Flue vertical connector
208175
ü
ü
ü
Powered vertical flue kit 100mm
203134
ü
ü
ü
Flue deflector 60 dia
208176
ü
ü
ü
Weather collar (universal) 100mm
152258
ü
ü
ü
Weather collar (flat roof) 100mm
152259
ü
ü
ü
Flue finishing kit
155988
ü
ü
ü
Roof flue kit
211039
ü
ü
ü
Powered flue kit
203136
ü
ü
ü
Rear flue outlet kit (55/80)
205990
û
ü
û
Flue finishing kit (55/80)
206151
û
ü
û
Secondary flue extension (1000x80mm) pair
203142
ü
ü
ü
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INSTALLATION ACCESSORIES
IDEAL
PART NO.
COMBI
HEAT
SYSTEM
211103
ü
û
ü
Stand off kit (Heat only)
206153
û
ü
û
Stand off kit (Inc. piping, 206679)
211108
ü
û
211330
Condensate pump kit
159991
ü
ü
ü
Terminal wall plate PS replacement kit
(Combi/System)
211318
ü
ü
ü
Terminal wall plate RS replacement kit (Heat)
206164
û
ü
û
Pressure gauge extension kit
206712
ü
û
ü
Weather compensation kit
211326
ü
û
û
Weather compensation kit
211332
û
ü
ü
Pre-piping kit
211041
ü
û
û
Pre-piping kit
211331
û
û
ü
Security bracket kit
205217
ü
ü
ü
Opentherm harness kit
211327
ü
û
û
PRV wall outlet pipe kit
205126
ü
û
ü
DHW expansion vessel kit
205419
ü
û
û
Stand off kit
LOGIC (ALL MODELS)
IDEAL
PART NO.
Balcony flue outlet kit
208177
Soffit kit
211302
Raised horizontal flue outlet kit
208290
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ACCESSORIES.
HIGH LEVEL FLUE OUTLET KIT
These easy to install kits allow the boiler flue outlet to be extended external to the building,
upwards to provide a flue exit at high level, overcoming problems associated with plume
emission. The kit can be simply fitted retrofitted if necessary (excluding rear outlet of
Logic Heat).
An external 60mm diameter flue leads from the boiler terminal (which includes a 90° elbow
at the flue exit) to terminate with a 90° elbow complete with grille. Push fit one metre extension
pipes are used as required, and the fixing clips supplied support the system from the wall.
Both 90° and 45° elbows are available to provide routing options.
THE KIT COMPRISES:
Flue elbow - 1 off
60mm flue exit elbow - 1 off
60mm horizontal flue exit - 1 off
60mm x 500mm flue outlet Extension pipe - 1 off
This kit is specified for use with the normal standard B pack.
The standard terminal nose is replaced with the high level terminal.
Diagram representative only.
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diagram representative only
IMPORTANT
Flue must
always slope at
least 1 1/2˚
back to the
boiler
Vertical
Horizontal left or right
LOGIC (ALL MODELS)
IDEAL
PART NO.
High level flue outlet kit
208178
Logic Heat rear flue outlet (55/80) ONLY high
level flue outlet kit (55/80)
205989
1m x 60mm extension pipe (with bracket)
203228
90° elbow
203229
45˚ left or right
Stand203230
off kit*
Stand off kit **
Flue45°Elbow
Flue Elbow 45º
elbow90º
(pair)
Inc. piping
kit (60/100)
kit (60/100)
If additional elbows topackaged
those supplied
in the high level flue outlet kit are used, deduct the
packaged
(pair)
following resistances (metres) from the maximum boiler flue length.
LOGIC (ALL MODELS)
METRES
90° elbow
1.4
45° elbow (pair)
1.25
Ideal Part No.
203130
Ideal Part No.
203131
Weather collar
Weather collar
Ideal Part No.
204913
Flue finishing kit
Ideal Part No.
204872
Condensate
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ACCESSORIES.
LOGIC CODE COMBI ES
FLUEING ACCESSORIES
Telescopic B pack flue
IDEAL PART NO.
208169
Horizontal flue terminal (600mm long)
208171
Horizontal flue terminal (1000mm long)
208174
Flue elbow 90° kit (60/100) packaged
203130
Flue elbow 45° kit (60/100) packaged (pair)
203131
Flue extension 1000mm (Pack D)
203129
Flue vertical connector
208175
Powered vertical flue kit 100mm
203134
Flue deflector 60 dia
208176
Weather collar (universal) 100mm
152258
Weather collar (flat roof) 100mm
152259
Flue finishing kit
155988
Roof flue kit
211039
Powered flue kit
203136
Concentric flue screw retaining kit
205024
Secondary flue extension (1000x80mm) pair
203142
INSTALLATION ACCESSORIES
IDEAL PART NO.
Stand off kit
206383
Stand off kit Inc. piping
206679
Condensate pump kit
159991
DHW expansion vessel kit
205419
Pressure gauge extension kit
206712
Weather compensation kit
204914
Pre-piping kit
206704
Security bracket kit
206708
Opentherm harness kit
204915
PRV wall outlet pipe kit
205126
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CONTACT US.
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specialist teams they are on hand to help you
7 days a week, 364 days a year.
CUSTOMER SERVICE
Tel: 01482 498660
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Tel: 0844 498056
TECHNICAL HELP
Tel: 01482 498663
IDEAL GENUINE PARTS
Tel: 01482 498665
MAIN RECEPTION
Tel: 01482 492251
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PO Box 103
National Avenue
Kingston upon Hull
East Yorkshire
HU5 4JN
T 01482 492251
WWW.IDEALBOILERS.COM
07.2015 211133 v4
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