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Mitsubishi Electric MELSEC iQ-F FX5U, FX5UC, MELSEC FX3U FX3U, MELSEC FX3UC FX3UC PLC Handbook
Below you will find brief information for MELSEC iQ-F FX5U, MELSEC iQ-F FX5UC. The MELSEC iQ-F Series is equipped with analog functions, communication and high-speed input/output etc., and is expandable with expansion boards and expansion adapters. It features powerful positioning functionality and supports communication protocols such as Ethernet, MODBUS, and CC-Link.
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SAFETY PRECAUTIONS
(Read these precautions before use.)
Before using this product, please read this manual and the relevant manuals introduced in this manual carefully and pay full attention to safety in order to handle the product correctly.
This manual classifies the safety precautions into two categories: WARNING and CAUTION.
WARNING
Indicates that incorrect handling may cause hazardous conditions, resulting in death or severe injury.
CAUTION
Indicates that incorrect handling may cause hazardous conditions, resulting in minor or moderate injury or property damage.
Depending on the circumstances, procedures indicated by CAUTION may also cause severe injury.
It is important to follow all precautions for personal safety.
Store this manual in a safe place so that it can be read whenever necessary. Always forward it to the end user.
[DESIGN PRECAUTIONS]
WARNING
● Make sure to set up the following safety circuits outside the PLC to ensure safe system operation even during external power supply problems or PLC failure. Otherwise, malfunctions may cause serious accidents.
Most importantly, set up the following: an emergency stop circuit, a protection circuit, an interlock circuit for opposite movements (such as normal vs. reverse rotation), and an interlock circuit (to prevent damage to the equipment at the upper and lower positioning limits).
Note that when the CPU module detects an error, such as a watchdog timer error, during selfdiagnosis, all outputs are turned off. Also, when an error that cannot be detected by the CPU module occurs in an input/output control block, output control may be disabled. External circuits and mechanisms should be designed to ensure safe machinery operation in such a case.
Note that the output current of the 24 V DC service power supply varies depending on the model and the absence/presence of extension modules. If an overload occurs, the voltage automatically drops, inputs in the PLC are disabled, and all outputs are turned off. External circuits and mechanisms should be designed to ensure safe machinery operation in such a case.
Note that when an error occurs in a relay, triac or transistor of an output circuit, the output might stay on or off. For output signals that may lead to serious accidents, external circuits and mechanisms should be designed to ensure safe machinery operation in such a case.
● Construct an interlock circuit in the program so that the whole system always operates on the safe side before executing the control (for data change) of the PLC in operation.
Read the manual thoroughly and ensure complete safety before executing other controls (for program change, parameter change, forcible output and operation status change) of the PLC in operation.
Otherwise, the machine may be damaged and accidents may occur due to erroneous operations.
● In an output circuit, when a load current exceeding the current rating or an overcurrent caused by a load short-circuit flows for a long time, it may cause smoke and fire. To prevent this, configure an external safety circuit, such as a fuse.
● For the operating status of each station after a communication failure of the network, refer to relevant manuals for the network. Incorrect output or malfunction may result in an accident.
● To maintain the safety of the programmable controller system against unauthorized access from external devices via the network, take appropriate measures. To maintain the safety against unauthorized access via the Internet, take measures such as installing a firewall.
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[DESIGN PRECAUTIONS]
CAUTION
● When an inductive load such as a lamp, heater, or solenoid valve is controlled, a large current
(approximately ten times greater than normal) may flow when the output is turned from off to on. Take proper measures so that the flowing current dose not exceed the value corresponding to the maximum load specification of the resistance load.
● After the CPU module is powered on or is reset, the time taken to enter the RUN status varies depending on the system configuration, parameter settings, and/or program size.
Design circuits so that the entire system will always operate safely, regardless of this variation in time.
● Simultaneously turn on and off the power supplies of the CPU module and extension modules.
● If a long-time power failure or an abnormal voltage drop occurs, the PLC stops, and output is turned off. When the power supply is restored, it will automatically restart (when the RUN/STOP/RESET switch is on the RUN side).
[INSTALLATION PRECAUTIONS]
WARNING
● Make sure to cut off all phases of the power supply externally before attempting installation or wiring work. Failure to do so may cause electric shock or damage to the product.
● Use the product within the generic environment specifications described in the User's Manual
(Hardware) for the CPU module to be used.
Never use the product in areas with excessive dust, oily smoke, conductive dusts, corrosive gas (salt air, Cl
2
, H
2
S, SO
2
or NO
2
), flammable gas, vibration or impacts, or expose it to high temperature, condensation, or rain and wind.
If the product is used in such conditions, electric shock, fire, malfunctions, deterioration or damage may occur.
[INSTALLATION PRECAUTIONS]
CAUTION
● Do not touch the conductive parts of the product directly. Doing so may cause device failures or malfunctions.
● When drilling screw holes or wiring, make sure that cutting and wiring debris do not enter the ventilation slits of the PLC. Failure to do so may cause fire, equipment failures or malfunctions.
● For the product supplied together with a dust proof sheet, the sheet should be affixed to the ventilation slits before the installation and wiring work to prevent foreign objects such as cutting and wiring debris.
However, when the installation work is completed, make sure to remove the sheet to provide adequate ventilation. Failure to do so may cause fire, equipment failures or malfunctions.
● Install the product on a flat surface. If the mounting surface is rough, undue force will be applied to the
PC board, thereby causing nonconformities.
● Install the product securely using a DIN rail or mounting screws.
● Connect the expansion board and expansion adapter securely to their designated connectors. Loose connections may cause malfunctions.
● Make sure to affix the expansion board with tapping screws.
Tightening torque should follow the specifications in the manual.
If the screws are tightened outside of the specified torque range, poor connections may cause malfunctions.
● Work carefully when using a screwdriver such as installation of the product. Failure to do so may cause damage to the product or accidents.
● Connect the extension cables, peripheral device cables, input/output cables and battery connecting cable securely to their designated connectors. Loose connections may cause malfunctions.
● When using an SD memory card, insert it into the SD memory card slot. Check that it is inserted completely. Poor contact may cause malfunction.
● Turn off the power to the PLC before attaching or detaching the following devices. Failure to do so may cause equipment failures or malfunctions.
- Peripheral devices, expansion board and expansion adapter
- Extension modules, bus conversion module and connector conversion module
- Battery
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[WIRING PRECAUTIONS]
WARNING
● Make sure to cut off all phases of the power supply externally before attempting installation or wiring work. Failure to do so may cause electric shock or damage to the product.
● Make sure to attach the terminal cover, provided as an accessory, before turning on the power or initiating operation after installation or wiring work. Failure to do so may cause electric shock.
● The temperature rating of the cable should be 80 or more.
● Make sure to wire the screw terminal block in accordance with the following precautions. Failure to do so may cause electric shock, equipment failures, a short-circuit, wire breakage, malfunctions, or damage to the product.
The disposal size of the cable end should follow the dimensions described in the manual.
Tightening torque should follow the specifications in the manual.
Tighten the screws using a Phillips-head screwdriver No. 2 (shaft diameter 6 mm or less). Make sure that the screwdriver does not touch the partition part of the terminal block.
● Make sure to properly wire to the terminal block (European type) in accordance with the following precautions. Failure to do so may cause electric shock, equipment failures, a short-circuit, wire breakage, malfunctions, or damage to the product.
The disposal size of the cable end should follow the dimensions described in the manual.
Tightening torque should follow the specifications in the manual.
Twist the ends of stranded wires and make sure that there are no loose wires.
Do not solder-plate the electric wire ends.
Do not connect more than the specified number of wires or electric wires of unspecified size.
Affix the electric wires so that neither the terminal block nor the connected parts are directly stressed.
[WIRING PRECAUTIONS]
CAUTION
● Do not supply power to the [24+] and [24V] terminals (24 V DC service power supply) on the CPU module or extension modules. Doing so may cause damage to the product.
● Perform class D grounding (grounding resistance: 100 or less) to the grounding terminal on the
CPU module or extension modules with a wire 2 mm
2
or thicker.
Do not use common grounding with heavy electrical systems (refer to the User's Manual (Hardware) for the CPU module to be used).
● Connect the power supply wiring to the dedicated terminals described in this manual. If an AC power supply is connected to a DC input/output terminal or DC power supply terminal, the PLC will burn out.
● Do not wire vacant terminals externally. Doing so may cause damage to the product.
● Install module so that excessive force will not be applied to terminal blocks, power connectors, I/O connectors, communication connectors, or communication cables. Failure to do so may result in wire damage/breakage or PLC failure.
● Make sure to observe the following precautions in order to prevent any damage to the machinery or accidents due to malfunction of the PLC caused by abnormal data written to the PLC due to the effects of noise.
Do not bundle the power line, control line and communication cables together with or lay them close to the main circuit, high-voltage line, load line or power line. As a guideline, lay the power line, control line and communication cables at least 100 mm away from the main circuit, highvoltage line, load line or power line.
Ground the shield of the shielded wire or shielded cable at one point on the PLC. However, do not use common grounding with heavy electrical systems.
Ground the shield of the analog input/output cable at one point on the signal receiving side.
However, do not use common grounding with heavy electrical systems.
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[STARTUP AND MAINTENANCE PRECAUTIONS]
WARNING
● Do not touch any terminal while the PLC's power is on. Doing so may cause electric shock or malfunctions.
● Before cleaning or retightening terminals, cut off all phases of the power supply externally. Failure to do so in the power ON status may cause electric shock.
● Before modifying the program in operation, forcible output, running or stopping the PLC, read through this manual carefully, and ensure complete safety. An operation error may damage the machinery or cause accidents.
● Do not change the program in the PLC from two or more peripheral equipment devices at the same time. (i.e. from an engineering tool and a GOT) Doing so may cause destruction or malfunction of the
PLC program.
● Use the battery for memory backup in conformance to the User's Manual (Hardware) for the CPU module to be used.
Use the battery for the specified purpose only.
Connect the battery correctly.
Do not charge, disassemble, heat, put in fire, short-circuit, connect reversely, weld, swallow or burn the battery, or apply excessive forces (vibration, impact, drop, etc.) to the battery.
Do not store or use the battery at high temperatures or expose to direct sunlight.
Do not expose to water, bring near fire or touch liquid leakage or other contents directly.
Incorrect handling of the battery may cause heat excessive generation, bursting, ignition, liquid leakage or deformation, and lead to injury, fire or failures and malfunction of facilities and other equipment.
[STARTUP AND MAINTENANCE PRECAUTIONS]
CAUTION
● Do not disassemble or modify the PLC. Doing so may cause fire, equipment failures, or malfunctions.
For repair, contact your local Mitsubishi Electric representative.
● After the first use of the SD memory card, do not insert/remove the memory card more than 500 times.
500 times or more may cause malfunction.
● Turn off the power to the PLC before connecting or disconnecting any extension cable. Failure to do so may cause equipment failures or malfunctions.
● Turn off the power to the PLC before attaching or detaching the following devices. Failure to do so may cause equipment failures or malfunctions.
Peripheral devices, expansion board and expansion adapter
Extension modules, bus conversion module and connector conversion module
Battery
[OPERATION PRECAUTIONS]
CAUTION
● Construct an interlock circuit in the program so that the whole system always operates on the safe side before executing the control (for data change) of the PLC in operation. Read the manual thoroughly and ensure complete safety before executing other controls (for program change, parameter change, forcible output and operation status change) of the PLC in operation. Otherwise, the machine may be damaged and accidents may occur due to erroneous operations.
[DISPOSAL PRECAUTIONS]
CAUTION
● Please contact a certified electronic waste disposal company for the environmentally safe recycling and disposal of your device.
● When disposing of batteries, separate them from other waste according to local regulations. For details of the Battery Directive in EU countries, refer to the User's Manual (Hardware) for the CPU module to be used.
[TRANSPORTATION PRECAUTIONS]
CAUTION
● When transporting the PLC with the optional battery, turn on the PLC before shipment, confirm that the battery mode is set using a parameter and the BAT LED is OFF, and check the battery life. If the
PLC is transported with the BAT LED ON or the battery exhausted, the battery-backed data may be unstable during transportation.
● The PLC is a precision instrument. During transportation, avoid impacts larger than those specified in the general specifications of the User's Manual (Hardware) for the CPU module to be used by using dedicated packaging boxes and shock-absorbing palettes. Failure to do so may cause failures in the
PLC. After transportation, verify operation of the PLC and check for damage of the mounting part, etc.
● When transporting lithium batteries, follow required transportation regulations. For details on the regulated products, refer to the User's Manual (Hardware) for the CPU module to be used.
● When fumigants that contain halogen materials such as fluorine, chlorine, bromine, and iodine are used for disinfecting and protecting wooden packaging from insects, they cause malfunction when entering our products. Please take necessary precautions to ensure that remaining materials from fumigant do not enter our products, or treat packaging with methods other than fumigation (heat method). Additionally, disinfect and protect wood from insects before packing products.
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INTRODUCTION
This Replacement Manual describes CPU module and extension device model selection for replacement from the MELSEC
FX3U/FX3UC Series to the MELSEC iQ-F Series.
When replacing from the MELSEC FX3U/FX3UC Series to the MELSEC iQ-F Series, some items will be necessary to consider beforehand such as the replacement procedure, installation location, comparing specifications of the existing module and the planned replacing module, and how to replace the network. For smooth replacement, please carefully consider beforehand.
Regarding use of this product
• This product has been manufactured as a general-purpose part for general industries, and has not been designed or manufactured to be incorporated in a device or system used in purposes related to human life.
• Before using the product for special purposes such as nuclear power, electric power, aerospace, medicine or passenger movement vehicles, consult Mitsubishi Electric.
• This product has been manufactured under strict quality control. However when installing the product where major accidents or losses could occur if the product fails, install appropriate backup or failsafe functions in the system.
Note
• If in doubt at any stage during the installation of the product, always consult a professional electrical engineer who is qualified and trained in the local and national standards. If in doubt about the operation or use, please consult the nearest
Mitsubishi Electric representative.
• Since the examples indicated by this manual, technical bulletin, catalog, etc. are used as a reference, please use it after confirming the function and safety of the equipment and system. Mitsubishi Electric will accept no responsibility for actual use of the product based on these illustrative examples.
• This manual content, specification etc. may be changed, without a notice, for improvement.
• The information in this manual has been carefully checked and is believed to be accurate; however, if you notice a doubtful point, an error, etc., please contact the nearest Mitsubishi Electric representative. When doing so, please provide the manual number given at the end of this manual.
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CONTENTS
CHAPTER 2 Replacement from FX3U to FX5U
CHAPTER 3 Replacement from FX3UC to FX5UC
CHAPTER 4 Conversion of the Projects
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RELEVANT MANUALS
User's manuals for the applicable modules
■MELSEC iQ-F Series
Manual name <manual number>
MELSEC iQ-F FX5 User's Manual (Startup)
<JY997D58201>
MELSEC iQ-F FX5U User's Manual (Hardware)
<JY997D55301>
MELSEC iQ-F FX5UC User's Manual (Hardware)
<JY997D61401>
MELSEC iQ-F FX5 User's Manual (Application)
<JY997D55401>
MELSEC iQ-F FX5 Programming Manual (Program Design)
<JY997D55701>
MELSEC iQ-F FX5 Programming Manual (Instructions, Standard Functions/
Function Blocks)
<JY997D55801>
MELSEC iQ-F FX5 User's Manual (Serial Communication)
<JY997D55901>
MELSEC iQ-F FX5 User's Manual (MELSEC Communication Protocol)
<JY997D60801>
MELSEC iQ-F FX5 User's Manual (MODBUS Communication)
<JY997D56101>
MELSEC iQ-F FX5 User's Manual (Ethernet Communication)
<JY997D56201>
MELSEC iQ-F FX5 User's Manual (SLMP)
<JY997D56001>
MELSEC iQ-F FX5 User's Manual (Positioning Control)
<JY997D56301>
MELSEC iQ-F FX5 User's Manual (Analog Control)
<JY997D60501>
GX Works3 Operating Manual
<SH-081215ENG>
Description
Performance specifications, procedures before operation, and troubleshooting of the CPU module.
Describes the details of hardware of the FX5U CPU module, including input/ output specifications, wiring, installation, and maintenance.
Describes the details of hardware of the FX5UC CPU module, including input/ output specifications, wiring, installation, and maintenance.
Describes basic knowledge required for program design, functions of the CPU module, devices/labels, and parameters.
Describes specifications of ladders, ST, FBD/LD, and other programs and labels.
Describes specifications of instructions and functions that can be used in programs.
Describes N:N network, MELSEC Communication protocol, inverter communication, non-protocol communication, and predefined protocol support.
Explains methods for the device that is communicating with the CPU module by
MC protocol to read and write the data of the CPU module.
Describes MODBUS serial communication.
Describes the functions of the built-in Ethernet port communication function.
Explains methods for the device that is communicating with the CPU module by
SLMP to read and write the data of the CPU module.
Describes the built-in positioning function.
Describes the analog function.
System configuration, parameter settings, and online operations of GX Works3.
■MELSEC FX3U/FX3UC Series
Manual name <manual number>
FX3U Series User's Manual [Hardware Edition]
<JY997D16501>
FX3UC Series User's Manual [Hardware Edition]
<JY997D28701>
FX2N-CNV-BC User's Guide
<JY992D66601>
FX3S/FX3G/FX3GC/FX3U/FX3UC Series Programming Manual [Basic &
Applied Instruction Edition]
<JY997D16601>
MELSEC-Q
LF Structured Programming Manual (Fundamentals)
<SH080782>
FX CPU Structured Programming Manual [Device & Common]
<JY997D26001>
FX CPU Structured Programming Manual [Basic & Applied Instruction]
<JY997D34701>
FX CPU Structured Programming Manual [Application Functions]
<JY997D34801>
FX3S/FX3G/FX3GC/FX3U/FX3UC Series User's Manual [Analog Control
Edition]
<JY997D16701>
FX3U-4LC User’s Manual
<JY997D39101>
Description
Describes hardware of FX3U Series, including input/output specifications, wiring, installation and maintenance.
Describes hardware of FX3UC Series, including input/output specifications, wiring, installation and maintenance.
Describes the connection procedure for system configuration of the FX2N-CNV-
BC type connector conversion adapter.
Describes sequence programming for FX3S
FX3GFX3GCFX3UFX3UC
Series, including explanation for basic instructions, applied instructions and various devices.
Programming methods, specifications, functions, etc. required to create structured programs.
Devices, parameters, etc. provided in structured projects of GX Works2.
Sequence instructions provided in structured projects of GX Works2.
Application functions provided in structured projects of GX Works2.
Describes handling for analog control of the FX3S
FX3GFX3GCFX3UFX3UC
Series.
Describes the component names, external dimensions, specifications, and handling of the FX3U-4LC type temperature control module.
Manual name <manual number>
FX3U-2HC User’s Manual
<JY997D36701>
FX3S/FX3G/FX3GC/FX3U/FX3UC Series User’s Manual [Positioning
Control]
<JY997D16801>
FX3U-1PG User’s Manual
<JY997D47301>
FX3U-20SSC-H User’s Manual
<JY997D21301>
FX Configurator-FP Operation Manual
<JY997D21801>
FX Series User’s Manual [Data Communication Edition]
<JY997D16901>
FX3U-16CCL-M User’s Manual
<JY997D43601>
FX3U-64CCL User’s Manual
<JY997D30401>
FX3U-128ASL-M User’s Manual
<JY997D52101>
FX3U-ENET User’s Manual
<JY997D18101>
FX3U-ENET-ADP User’s Manual
<JY997D45801>
FX3U-1PSU-5V Installation Manual
<JY997D22501>
GX Works2 Version 1 Operating Manual (Common)
<SH-080779>
Description
Describes the component names, external dimensions, specifications, and handling of the FX3U-2HC type high-speed counter module.
Describes handling for positioning control of the
FX3S
FX3GFX3GCFX3UFX3UC Series.
Describes detailed information regarding the 1-axis pulse output module.
Describes the component names, external dimensions, specifications, and handling of the FX3U-20SSC-H type SSCNET positioning control module.
Describes handling and operation of the software for the FX Configurator-FP type positioning module.
Describes the device configuration, function description, and program of the N:N network/parallel link/computer link/inverter communication/non-protocol communication/programming communication.
Describes detailed information regarding the CC-Link master module.
Describes detailed information regarding the CC-Link interface module.
Describes detailed information regarding the FX3U-128ASL-M type
AnyWireASLINK master module.
Describes detailed information regarding the Ethernet extension module.
Describes detailed information regarding the FX3U-ENET-ADP type Ethernet communication extension adapter.
Describes the specification and handling procedures of the extension power module.
Explains system configuration, parameter settings, and online operations of GX
Works2.
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TERMS
Unless otherwise specified, this manual uses the following terms.
• indicates a variable part to collectively call multiple models or versions.
(Example) FX5-C32EX/D, FX5-C32ET/D, FX5-C32EYT/D FX5-C32E/D
• For details on the FX3 devices that can be connected with the FX5, refer to User's Manual (Hardware) of the CPU module used.
Terms
■Devices
FX5
FX3
FX5 CPU module
FX5U CPU module
FX5UC CPU module
Description
Extension module
• FX5 extension module
• FX3 extension module
Generic term for I/O modules, extension power supply module, and FX5 intelligent function modules
Generic term for FX3 intelligent function module
• Extension module (extension cable type) Input modules (extension cable type), Output modules (extension cable type), Powered input/output modules, Bus conversion modules (extension cable type), and Intelligent function modules
• Extension module (extension connector type) Input modules (extension connector type), Output modules (extension connector type), Input/output modules, Extension power supply module, Bus conversion module (extension connector type), and
Connector conversion module (extension connector type)
I/O module
Input module
• Input module (extension cable type)
• Input module (extension connector type)
Output module
• Output module (extension cable type)
• Output module (extension connector type)
Input/output modules
Powered input/output module
Extension power supply module
• FX5 Extension power supply module
• FX3 Extension power supply module
Intelligent module
Intelligent function module
• FX5 intelligent function module
• FX3 intelligent function module
Simple motion module
Expansion board
• Communication board
Expansion adapter
• Communication adapter
• Analog adapter
Bus conversion module
• Bus conversion module (extension cable type)
• Bus conversion module (extension connector type)
Connector conversion module (extension connector type)
Generic term for FX5U and FX5UC PLCs
Generic term for FX3S, FX3G, FX3GC, FX3U, and FX3UC PLCs
Generic term for FX5U CPU module and FX5UC CPU module
Generic term for FX5U-32MR/ES, FX5U-32MT/ES, FX5U-32MT/ESS, FX5U-64MR/ES, FX5U-64MT/ES,
FX5U-64MT/ESS, FX5U-80MR/ES, FX5U-80MT/ES, and FX5U-80MT/ESS
Generic term for FX5UC-32MT/D, FX5UC-32MT/DSS, FX5UC-64MT/D, FX5UC-64MT/DSS, FX5UC-96MT/
D, and FX5UC-96MT/DSS
Generic term for FX5 extension modules and FX3 extension modules
Generic term for Input modules and Output modules, Input/output modules, and Powered input/output modules
Generic term for Input modules (extension cable type) and Input modules (extension connector type)
Generic term for FX5-8EX/ES and FX5-16EX/ES
Generic term for FX5-C16EX/D, FX5-C16EX/DS, FX5-C32EX/D, and FX5-C32EX/DS
Generic term for output modules (extension cable type) and output modules (extension connector type)
Generic term for FX5-8EYR/ES, FX5-8EYT/ES, FX5-8EYT/ESS, FX5-16EYR/ES, FX5-16EYT/ES, and
FX5-16EYT/ESS
Generic term for FX5-C16EYT/D, FX5-C16EYT/DSS, FX5-C32EYT/D, and FX5-C32EYT/DSS
Generic term for FX5-C32ET/D and FX5-C32ET/DSS
Generic term for FX5-32ER/ES, FX5-32ET/ES, and FX5-32ET/ESS
Generic term for FX5 extension power supply modules and FX3 extension power supply module
Generic term for FX5-1PSU-5V and FX5-C1PS-5V
Different name for FX3U-1PSU-5V
The abbreviation for intelligent function modules
Generic term for FX5 intelligent function modules and FX3 intelligent function modules
Generic term for FX5 intelligent function modules
Different name for FX3 special function blocks
Different name for FX5-40SSC-S
Generic term for board for FX5U CPU module
Generic term for FX5-232-BD, FX5-485-BD, and FX5-422-BD-GOT
Generic term for adapter for FX5 CPU module
Generic term for FX5-232ADP and FX5-485ADP
Generic term for FX5-4AD-ADP and FX5-4DA-ADP
Generic term for Bus conversion module (extension cable type) and Bus conversion module (extension connector type)
Different name for FX5-CNV-BUS
Different name for FX5-CNV-BUSC
Different name for FX5-CNV-IFC
Terms
Battery
SD memory card
Peripheral device
GOT
■Software packages
Engineering tool
GX Works3
Description
Different name for FX3U-32BL
Generic term for NZ1MEM-2GBSD, NZ1MEM-4GBSD, L1MEM-2GBSD and L1MEM-4GBSD SD memory cards
Abbreviation of Secure Digital Memory Card. Device that stores data using flash memory.
Generic term for engineering tools and GOTs
Generic term for Mitsubishi Graphic Operation Terminal GOT1000 and GOT2000 series
The product name of the software package for the MELSEC programmable controllers
The product name of the software package, SWnDND-GXW3, for the MELSEC programmable controllers
(The 'n' represents a version.)
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Outline
1.1
Outline of the MELSEC iQ-F Series
Designed on the concepts of outstanding performance, superior drive control and user centric programming, Mitsubishi’s
MELSEC-F Series has been reborn as the MELSEC iQ-F Series.
From stand alone use to networked system applications, MELSEC iQ-F Series brings your business to the next level of industry.
Outstanding Performance
CPU Performance
A new sequence execution engine is at the core of MELSEC iQ-F, capable of running structured programs and multiple programs, and supports structured text and function blocks, etc.
High-speed System Bus Communication
MELSEC iQ-F realizes high-speed system bus communication at speeds of 1.5 k words/ms (approx. 150-times faster than
FX3U). Achieve maximum performance even when using intelligent function module with large amounts of data.
Security
MELSEC iQ-F has advanced security functions (file password, remote password, security key) to prevent data theft and illegal operations by unauthorized persons.
Superior Drive Control
Built-in Positioning
MELSEC iQ-F features powerful positioning functionality with 8 ch high-speed pulse input and 4-axis pulse output. Positioning operations including interrupt, variable speed, and simple interpolation can easily be set up in tables and executed.
Simple Motion Module (FX5-40SSC-S)
By connecting the Simple Motion module (FX5-40SSC-S) equipped with a 4-axis positioning function compatible with
SSCNET/H, and combining linear interpolation, 2-axis circular interpolation and continuous trajectory control in the program set with a table, a smooth trajectory can be easily drawn.
By starting with parameter settings and the PLC program, the Simple Motion modules can realize a variety of motion control including positioning control, advanced synchronous control, cam control and speed-torque control.
Improved Programming Environment
User-friendly Programming Software (GX Works3)
■System design with a convenient parts library
With GX Works3, designing a system is as easy as preparing the module configuration diagram by dragging and dropping selected parts.
■Auto-generation of module parameters
When preparing the module configuration diagram, simply double-click the module to automatically generate the module parameters. A window with an easy-to-use parameter settings screen opens, enabling module parameters to be modified as needed.
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1.1 Outline of the MELSEC iQ-F Series
■Main programming languages supported
The main IEC languages are supported by GX Works3. Various different programming languages can be used within the same project simultaneously, and the labels and devices used in each program can be shared.
1.2
Substitute Models
The recommended substitute models (MELSEC iQ-F Series) introduced in this manual are general substitute models considered from the number of input/output points, program capacity, product and input/output terminal type (terminal block/ connector etc.). According to usage and service condition, other substitute models different from those described may be suitable. Please plan replacement to a substitute model with the following procedures.
Procedure to Replace to Substitute Model
1.
Investigation of the existing system
List the installed places, number of units, and the type of PLCs. Investigate the programs and wiring diagram etc.
2.
Diagnosis of the facilities
Make a diagnosis of the facility’s importance and duration of service, usage environment etc., and set priorities and plan the replacement procedure.
3.
Selection of the models
Select the replacement models according to the number of input/output points and the availability of extension modules etc.
Select from the latest MELSEC iQ-F Series.
4.
Reuse of the program
Consider either to reuse the program of the existing system, or create new program.
When reusing, convert and correct the read out program to the new PLC’s format.
5.
Replacement of the models
Arrange the selected models and replace on-site.
6.
Debug of the system
Test the system after replacement and adjust bugs and timing.
7.
Completion
After debugging, migrate to live operation.
Selection and Replacement of the Models
The CPU modules and extension modules of FX3U/FX3UC can be replaced by selecting models from the successor models
FX5U/FX5UC that match the system.
• FX3U
Selection of the models
Page 18 Replacement from FX3U to FX5U
• FX3UC
Selection of the models
Page 25 Replacement from FX3UC to FX5UC
Replacement of the Projects
FX3U/FX3UC projects created by GX Works2 can be converted to MELSEC iQ-F projects by GX Works3. (GX Works2 must also be installed)
Replacement of the projects
Page 32 Conversion of the Projects
1
1 Outline
1.2 Substitute Models
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2
Replacement from FX3U to FX5U
2.1
Outline
FX5U, which is the successor model of the FX3U, is equipped with analog functions, communication and high-speed input/ output etc., and can easily be expanded with expansion boards and expansion adapters. The high-speed system bus communication brings out the maximum performance of extension modules equipped with intelligent functions.
The procedures and points for replacing to the successor model FX5U are shown below. Please consider replacement with the information.
Points to Consider
• The “recommended substitute models” are described for individual FX3U and extension modules that can be replaced by iQ-F Series models. According to usage and system configuration (connection status of the extension modules), and cases when the I/O numbers actually used are small, other models than the described “recommended substitute models” may be suitable for replacement.
• The recommended substitute models for extension modules, function expansion boards and built-in batteries are described with those that can be connected to the FX5U CPU module.
• Contents that require special caution when replacing each model are described in “Special notes”. Most recommended substitute models have various differences in specifications other than those in “Special notes” such as the dimension becoming smaller than the current models. Therefore, when considering usage, please check not only the “Special notes” but also the details of each specification for the dimension and power specifications etc., in the manual.
• Based on the above conditions, “No recommended substitute models” is described for those without a recommended substitute model, but there are cases that can be replaced with an FX5U system configuration according to usage and system configuration. Check the necessary functions and features when considering the replacement with FX5U system configuration.
2.2
Replacement Procedure
The replacement procedure is shown below.
The successor model FX5U is recommended when replacing from FX3U.
1.
Selection of the models
Select the substitute models.
Page 19 Selection of Substitute Models
2.
Conversion of the program
Convert the program used in FX3U to be able to use in FX5U.
Page 32 Conversion of the Projects
3.
Replacement to the substitute models
Replace the PLCs.
Page 24 Replacement of the PLC
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2.1 Outline
2.3
Selection of Substitute Models
Recommended Substitute Models
Recommended Substitute Models for CPU Modules
The recommended substitute models of FX5U compatible with FX3U are introduced.
Please consider to replace the currently used CPU modules to the following recommended substitute models.
■FX3U and recommended substitute models list (CPU modules)
FX3U Series
Device name
CPU module
Model name
FX3U-16MR/ES
Recommended Substitute Models
Model name
FX5U-32MR/ES
FX3U-16MT/ES
FX3U-16MT/ESS
FX5U-32MT/ES
FX5U-32MT/ESS
Special notes
The number of I/O increases in the recommended substitute models.
The number of I/O increases in the recommended substitute models.
The number of I/O increases in the recommended substitute models.
FX3U-32MR/ES
FX3U-32MS/ES
FX3U-32MT/ES
FX3U-32MT/ESS
FX3U-48MR/ES
FX5U-32MR/ES
No recommended substitute models
FX5U-32MT/ES
FX5U-32MT/ESS
FX5U-64MR/ES
FX3U-48MT/ES
FX3U-48MT/ESS
FX5U-64MT/ES
FX5U-64MT/ESS
The number of I/O increases in the recommended substitute models.
The number of I/O increases in the recommended substitute models.
The number of I/O increases in the recommended substitute models.
FX3U-64MR/ES
FX3U-64MS/ES
FX3U-64MT/ES
FX3U-64MT/ESS
FX3U-80MR/ES
FX3U-80MT/ES
FX3U-80MT/ESS
FX3U-128MR/ES
FX3U-128MT/ES
FX3U-128MT/ESS
FX3U-16MR/DS
FX3U-16MT/DS
FX3U-16MT/DSS
FX3U-32MR/DS
FX3U-32MT/DS
FX3U-32MT/DSS
FX3U-48MR/DS
FX3U-48MT/DS
FX3U-48MT/DSS
FX3U-64MR/DS
FX3U-64MT/DS
FX3U-64MT/DSS
FX3U-80MR/DS
FX3U-80MT/DS
FX5U-64MR/ES
No recommended substitute models
FX5U-64MT/ES
FX5U-64MT/ESS
FX5U-80MR/ES
FX5U-80MT/ES
FX5U-80MT/ESS
FX5U-80MR/ES+FX5-32ER/ES+FX5-8EX/
ES+FX5-8EYR/ES
FX5U-80MT/ES+FX5-32ET/ES+FX5-8EX/
ES+FX5-8EYT/ES
FX5U-80MT/ESS+FX5-32ET/ESS+FX5-8EX/
ES+FX5-8EYT/ESS
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
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2
FX3U Series
Device name
CPU module
Model name
FX3U-80MT/DSS
FX3U-32MR/UA1
FX3U-64MR/UA1
Recommended Substitute Models
Model name
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
Special notes
Recommended Substitute Models for Extension Devices
The following list shows the extension devices that will be necessary to replace simultaneously when replacing the CPU module from FX3U to FX5U.
For products without a substitute model of the same function, check the contents described in the Special notes and please consider system reconfiguration.
■List of extension devices required to replace when replacing the CPU module from FX3U to
FX5U
Special notes Extension device
Device name Model name
Extension I/O FX2N-8ER
Recommended Substitute Models
Model name
FX5-8EX/ES+FX5-8EYR/ES
FX2N-8ER-ES/UL FX5-8EX/ES+FX5-8EYR/ES
The number of I/O increases in the recommended substitute models.
The number of I/O increases in the recommended substitute models.
FX2N-8EX
FX2N-8EX-ES/UL
FX2N-8EX-UA1/UL
FX2N-16EX
FX2N-16EX-ES/UL
FX2N-16EX-C
FX2N-16EXL-C
FX2N-8EYR
FX2N-8EYR-ES/UL
FX2N-8EYR-S-ES/UL
FX2N-8EYT
FX2N-8EYT-ESS/UL
FX2N-8EYT-H
FX2N-16EYR
FX2N-16EYR-ES/UL
FX2N-16EYT
FX2N-16EYT-ESS/UL
FX2N-16EYT-C
FX2N-16EYS
FX2N-32ER
FX2N-32ER-ES/UL
FX2N-32ET
FX2N-32ET-ESS/UL
FX2N-32ES
FX2N-48ER
FX2N-48ER-ES/UL
FX2N-48ET
FX2N-48ET-ESS/UL
FX2N-48ER-D
FX2N-48ER-DS
FX2N-48ET-D
FX2N-48ET-DSS
FX2N-48ER-UA1/UL
FX5-8EX/ES
FX5-8EX/ES
No recommended substitute models
FX5-16EX/ES
FX5-16EX/ES
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
FX5-8EYR/ES
FX5-8EYR/ES
No recommended substitute models
FX5-8EYT/ES
FX5-8EYT/ESS
No recommended substitute models
FX5-16EYR/ES
FX5-16EYR/ES
FX5-16EYT/ES
FX5-16EYT/ESS
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
FX5-32ER/ES
FX5-32ER/ES
FX5-32ET/ES
FX5-32ET/ESS
No recommended substitute models
FX5-32ER/ES+FX5-8EX/ES+FX5-8EYR/ES
FX5-32ER/ES+FX5-8EX/ES+FX5-8EYR/ES
FX5-32ET/ES+FX5-8EX/ES+FX5-8EYT/ES
FX5-32ET/ESS+FX5-8EX/ES+FX5-8EYT/ESS
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
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2.3 Selection of Substitute Models
Extension device
Device name Model name
Extension device FX3U-1PSU-5V
FX2N-5A
FX2N-2AD
FX2N-8AD
Recommended Substitute Models
Model name
FX5-1PSU-5V
FX3U-4AD+FX3U-4DA
FX3U-4AD+FX3U-4AD
FX2N-2LC FX3U-4LC
FX2N-1HC FX3U-2HC
FX2N-10PG FX3U-1PG
Special notes
The recommended substitute models do not support temperature input.
Replacement of the wiring from terminal block to connector is necessary.
The open collector output is up to 200 kHz in the recommended substitute models.
Replacement of the wiring from connector to terminal block is necessary.
Replacement is necessary due to the difference of the connector type for external input connection.
FX3U-20SSC-H
Expansion board
FX2N-232IF
FX2N-32CCL
FX2N-64CL-M
FX3U-ENET
FX3U-64DP-M
FX3U-32DP
FX3U-CAN
FX3U-J1939
FX2N-10GM
FX2N-20GM
FX2N-1RM-SET(-E)
FX2N-32DP-IF(-D)
FX2N-64DNET
FX3U-232-BD
FX3U-485-BD
FX3U-422-BD
FX3U-CNV-BD
FX3U-8AV-BD
FX3U-USB-BD
Expansion adapter FX3U-232ADP(-MB)
FX3U-485ADP(-MB)
FX3U-ENET-ADP
FX3U-3A-ADP
FX3U-4AD-ADP
FX3U-4DA-ADP
FX3U-4AD-PT-ADP
FX3U-4AD-PTW-ADP
FX3U-4AD-PNK-ADP
FX3U-4AD-TC-ADP
FX3U-4HSX-ADP
FX3U-2HSY-ADP
FX3U-CF-ADP
FX5-40SSC-S
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
FX5-232-BD
FX5-485-BD
FX5-422-BD-GOT
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
FX5-232ADP
FX5-485ADP
No recommended substitute models
FX5-4AD-ADP+FX5-4DA-ADP
FX5-4AD-ADP
FX5-4DA-ADP
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
Ethernet port is built into FX5U CPU module.
GOT can only be connected to FX5-422-BD-GOT.
Not necessary for FX5U CPU module.
Ethernet port is built into FX5U CPU module.
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Extension device
Device name Model name
Recommended Substitute Models
Model name
Special notes
Option FX3U-FLROM-16
FX3U-FLROM-64
FX3U-FLROM-64L
FX3U-FLROM-1M
FX3U-7DM
FX-30P
FX0N-30EC
FX0N-65EC
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
Substituted by an SD card.
Substituted by an SD card.
Substituted by an SD card.
Substituted by an SD card.
FX2N-CNV-BC No recommended substitute models
*1 It is possible to connect to the system of FX5U CPU module by connecting the bus conversion module (FX5-CNV-BUS).
Extension devices that can be reused when the CPU module is replaced to FX5U
The following extension modules can be used by connecting the bus conversion module (FX5-CNV-BUS) even when the CPU module is replaced from the FX3U to FX5U.
■Extension devices that can be used even when the CPU module is replaced from the FX3U to
FX5U
Analog Positioning High-speed counter Network Extension power supply
FX3U-1PSU-5V FX3U-4AD
FX3U-4DA
FX3U-4LC
FX3U-1PG FX3U-2HC FX3U-16CCL-M
FX3U-64CCL
FX3U-128ASL-M
*1 It is necessary to set the parameter with the PLC program.
Battery
The battery (FX3U-32BL) used in FX3U can also be used with FX5U.
Precautions Regarding the Hardware
Comparison of FX3U and FX5U and Precautions for Replacement
The following list shows precautions of the hardware. Check details in the manuals of each model when replacing.
■Difference and precautions regarding the main hardwares of FX3U and FX5U
Item Precautions
Extension of FX2N and FX3U
Input hardware filter
(When the digital filter is 0)
• High-speed counter
• Input interruption function
• Pulse catch function
Input signal current
Difference
FX3U
Extension possible
X0 to X5 are 5
s.
X6 and X7 are 50
s.
X10 to X17 are 200
s.
X0 to X5 are 6 mA.
X6 and X7 are 7 mA.
X10 and subsequent are 5 mA.
FX5U
Extension is possible only for certain modules.
FX5-CNV-BUS is required for extension.
There is no 0 setting.
X0 to X17 are 5.3 mA.
X20 and subsequent are 4 mA.
Connection is not possible for some intelligent modules of FX3U.
There is no 0 setting, but no setting can be selected (no filter).
Noises that were not detected by FX3U may possibly be captured as an input. If necessary, take measures against external noises.
The input signal current has been lowered, so it is necessary to check the specification of the external devices when replacing.
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■External dimension drawing
There is some difference in the external dimension of FX3U and the successor model FX5U. Be careful when replacing the modules.
• FX3U
2-
4.5-diam mounting hole (16M, 32M)
4-
4.5-diam mounting hole (48M to 128M)
There is no mounting hole * for 16M and 32M.
*
External color: Munsell 0.08GY/7.64/
0.81
Top cover: Munsell N1.5
Unit: mm
The terminal block uses M3 terminal screws
35 mm width DIN rail can be installed
2
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*
W1 (mounting hole pitch)
W
Model name
FX3U-16M
FX3U-32M
FX3U-48M, FX3U-32MR/UA1
FX3U-64M
FX3U-80M, FX3U-64MR/UA1
FX3U-128M
W: mm
130
150
182
220
285
350
• FX5U
2-
4.5-diam mounting hole (32M)
4-
4.5-diam mounting hole (64M, 80M)
There is no mounting hole * for 32M.
*
86 (When FX3U-7DM installed: 88.5)
9
W1: mm
103
123
155
193
258
323
Weight: kg
0.60
0.65
0.85
1.00
1.20
1.80
External color: Munsell 0.6B7.6/0.2
Unit: mm
The terminal block uses M3 terminal screws
35 mm width DIN rail can be installed
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*
W1 (mounting hole pitch)
W 83
Model name
FX5U-32M
FX5U-64M
FX5U-80M
W: mm
150
220
285
■Cable sizes for European type terminal block
Suitable wiring and tightening torque are described below.
Wire size for one wire
Wire size for two wires
AWG24 to
AWG20
AWG24
W1: mm
123
193
258
Wire ferrule with insulation sleeve
(wire size)
AWG24 to AWG20 Built-in RS-485 communication terminal block
Built-in analog I/O terminal block
FX3U-485-BD, FX3U-485ADP
FX5-485-BD, FX5-485ADP
FX5-4AD-ADP, FX5-4DA-ADP
AWG22 to
AWG20
AWG22 AWG22 to AWG20
8
Tightening torque
0.22 to 0.25
N
m
0.22 to 0.25
N
m
0.20 N
m
Weight: kg
0.65
1.00
1.20
Stripping dimensions of electric wire ends
5 mm
9 mm
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2.4
Conversion of the Projects
For the conversion method of the project, refer to Page 32 Conversion of the Projects.
2.5
Replacement of the PLC
The main points to consider during replacement of the CPU module and extension modules are explained below.
For details of each item, check the reference pages in this document, and related manuals such as the PLC Hardware Manual and Programming Manual.
Item Operation content and points of attention Reference page Device classification
CPU module
Other extension modules
Verifying operation of the equipment
Reuse of the input/output wiring
Wiring to each module
Perform rewiring for the connection part of the terminal block type.
Operation and test of the PLC program Operate the converted PLC program and hardware devices, and check and adjust the device function and operation timing.
Be aware of the precautions described on the reference page for replacing the project, and check that the devices operate as they are designed.
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2.4 Conversion of the Projects
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Replacement from FX3UC to FX5UC
3.1
Outline
FX5UC, the successor model of FX3UC, has compact and easy-to-use compatible extension modules, which makes downsizing of various devices possible. Connect to the FX5 and FX3 extension modules with the variety of conversion modules available.
The procedures and points for replacing to the successor model FX5UC are shown below. Please consider replacement with the information.
Points to Consider
• The “recommended substitute models” are described for individual FX3UC and extension modules that can be replaced by iQ-F Series models. According to usage and system configuration (connection status of the extension modules), and cases when the I/O numbers actually used are small, other models than the described “recommended substitute models” may be suitable for replacement.
• The recommended substitute models for extension modules and built-in batteries are described with those that can be connected to the FX5UC CPU module.
• Contents that require special caution when replacing each models are described in “Special notes”. Most recommended substitute models have various differences in the specifications other than those in “Special notes” such as the dimension becoming smaller than the current models. Therefore, when considering usage, please check not only the “Special notes” but also the details of each specification for the dimension and power specifications etc., in the manual.
• Based on the above conditions, “No recommended substitute models” is described for those without a recommended substitute model, but there are cases that can be replaced with an FX5UC system configuration according to usage and system configuration. Check the necessary functions and features when considering the replacement with FX5UC system configuration.
3.2
Replacement Procedure
The replacement procedure is shown below.
The successor model FX5UC is recommended when replacing from FX3UC.
1.
Selection of the models
Select the substitute models.
Page 26 Selection of Substitute Models
2.
Conversion of the program
Convert the program used in FX3UC to be able to use in FX5UC.
Page 32 Conversion of the Projects
3.
Replacement to the substitute models
Replace the PLCs.
Page 31 Replacement of the PLC
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3.1 Outline
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3.3
Selection of Substitute Models
Recommended Substitute Models
Recommended Substitute Models for CPU Modules
The recommended substitute models of FX5UC compatible with FX3UC are introduced below.
Please consider to replace the currently used CPU modules to the recommended substitute models shown below.
■FX3UC and recommended substitute models list (CPU modules)
FX3UC Series
Device name
CPU module
Model name
FX3UC-16MR/D-T
FX3UC-16MT/D
Recommended Substitute Models
Model name
No recommended substitute models
FX5UC-32MT/D
Special notes
The number of I/O increases in the recommended substitute models.
FX3UC-32MT/D
FX3UC-64MT/D
FX3UC-96MT/D
FX3UC-16MR/DS-T
FX3UC-16MT/DSS
FX5UC-32MT/D
FX5UC-64MT/D
FX5UC-96MT/D
No recommended substitute models
FX5UC-32MT/DSS The number of I/O increases in the recommended substitute models.
FX3UC-32MT/DSS
FX3UC-64MT/DSS
FX3UC-96MT/DSS
FX3UC-32MT-LT-2
FX5UC-32MT/DSS
FX5UC-64MT/DSS
FX5UC-96MT/DSS
No recommended substitute models
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Recommended Substitute Models for Extension Devices
The following list shows the extension devices that will be necessary to replace simultaneously when replacing the CPU module from FX3UC to FX5UC.
For products without a substitute model of the same function, check the contents described in the Special notes and please consider system reconfiguration.
■List of extension devices required to replace when replacing the CPU module from FX3UC to
FX5UC
Special notes Extension device
Device name Model name
Extension I/O FX2NC-16EX
FX2NC-16EX-DS
FX2NC-16EX-T
FX2NC-16EYT
FX2NC-16EYT-DSS
FX2NC-16EYR-T
FX2NC-32EX
FX2NC-32EX-DS
FX2NC-32EYT
FX2NC-32EYT-DSS
FX2N-8ER
Recommended Substitute Models
Model name
FX5-C16EX/D
FX5-C16EX/DS
No recommended substitute models
FX5-C16EYT/D
FX5-C16EYT/DSS
No recommended substitute models
FX5-C32EX/D
FX5-C32EX/DS
FX5-C32EYT/D
FX5-C32EYT/DSS
FX5-8EX/ES+FX5-8EYR/ES
FX2N-8ER-ES/UL FX5-8EX/ES+FX5-8EYR/ES
The number of I/O increases in the recommended substitute models.
The number of I/O increases in the recommended substitute models.
FX2N-8EX
FX2N-8EX-ES/UL
FX2N-8EX-UA1/UL
FX2N-16EX
FX2N-16EX-ES/UL
FX2N-16EX-C
FX2N-16EXL-C
FX2N-8EYR
FX2N-8EYR-ES/UL
FX2N-8EYR-S-ES/UL
FX2N-8EYT
FX2N-8EYT-ESS/UL
FX2N-8EYT-H
FX2N-16EYR
FX2N-16EYR-ES/UL
FX2N-16EYT
FX2N-16EYT-ESS/UL
FX2N-16EYT-C
FX2N-16EYS
FX5-8EX/ES
FX5-8EX/ES
No recommended substitute models
FX5-16EX/ES
FX5-16EX/ES
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
FX5-8EYR/ES
FX5-8EYR/ES
No recommended substitute models
FX5-8EYT/ES
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
FX5-16EYR/ES
FX5-16EYR/ES
FX5-16EYT/ES
FX5-16EYT/ESS
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
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Extension device
Device name Model name
Extension device FX2NC-1HC
Recommended Substitute Models
Model name
FX3U-2HC
FX3UC-4AD
FX2N-5A
FX2N-2AD
FX2N-8AD
FX3U-4AD+FX3U-4DA
FX3U-4AD+FX3U-4AD
FX2N-2LC FX3U-4LC
FX2N-1HC FX3U-2HC
FX2N-10PG FX3U-1PG
FX3U-20SSC-H
FX2N-232IF
FX2N-32CCL
FX2N-64CL-M
FX3U-ENET
FX3U-64DP-M
FX3U-32DP
FX3U-CAN
FX3U-J1939
FX2N-10GM
FX2N-20GM
FX2N-1RM-SET(-E)
FX2N-32DP-IF(-D)
FX2N-64DNET
FX3U-232-BD Expansion board
FX3U-485-BD
FX3U-422-BD
FX3U-CNV-BD
FX3U-8AV-BD
FX3U-USB-BD
Expansion adapter FX3U-232ADP(-MB)
FX3U-485ADP(-MB)
FX3U-ENET-ADP
FX3U-3A-ADP
FX3U-4AD-ADP
FX3U-4DA-ADP
FX3U-4AD-PT-ADP
FX3U-4AD-PTW-ADP
FX3U-4AD-PNK-ADP
FX3U-4AD-TC-ADP
FX3U-CF-ADP
FX5-40SSC-S
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
FX5-232-BD
FX5-485-BD
FX5-422-BD-GOT
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
FX5-232ADP
FX5-485ADP
No recommended substitute models
FX5-4AD-ADP+FX5-4DA-ADP
FX5-4AD-ADP
FX5-4DA-ADP
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
Special notes
The European terminal block must be replaced to the 40-pin connector.
The wiring must be replaced from the European terminal block to the screw terminal block.
The recommended substitute models do not support temperature input.
Replacement of the wiring from terminal block to connector is necessary.
The open collector output is up to 200 kHz in the recommended substitute models.
Replacement of the wiring from connector to terminal block is necessary.
Replacement is necessary due to the difference of the connector type for external input connection.
Ethernet port is built into FX5UC CPU module.
GOT can only be connected to FX5-422-BD-GOT.
Not necessary for FX5UC CPU module.
Ethernet port is built into FX5UC CPU module.
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3.3 Selection of Substitute Models
Extension device
Device name Model name
Recommended Substitute Models
Model name
Special notes
Option FX2NC-CNV-IF
FX3UC-1PS-5V
FX3U-FLROM-16
FX3U-FLROM-64
FX3U-FLROM-64L
FX3U-FLROM-1M
FX-30P
FX0N-30EC
FX5-CNV-IFC
FX5-C1PS-5V
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
Substituted by an SD card.
Substituted by an SD card.
Substituted by an SD card.
Substituted by an SD card.
FX0N-65EC
FX2N-CNV-BC
No recommended substitute models
No recommended substitute models
*1 It is possible to connect to the system of FX5UC CPU module by connecting a bus conversion module (FX5-CNV-BUSC or FX5-CNV-
BUS).
Extension devices that can be reused when the CPU module is replaced to FX5UC
The following extension devices can be used by connecting a bus conversion module (FX5-CNV-BUSC or FX5-CNV-BUS) even when the CPU module is replaced from the FX3UC to FX5UC.
■Extension devices that can be used even when the CPU module is replaced from the FX3UC
to FX5UC
Analog Positioning Network
FX3U-4AD
FX3U-4DA
FX3U-4LC
FX3U-1PG
High-speed counter
FX3U-2HC FX3U-16CCL-M
FX3U-64CCL
FX-16E-TB
FX-32E-TB
FX-16EX-A1-TB
FX-16EYR-TB
FX-16EYS-TB
FX-16EYT-TB
FX-16E-TB/UL
FX-32E-TB/UL
FX-16EYR-ES-TB/UL
FX-16EYS-ES-TB/UL
FX-16EYT-ES-TB/UL
FX-16EYT-ESS-TB/UL
*1 The terminal module can be used without connecting a bus conversion module.
*2 It is necessary to set the parameter with the PLC program.
Battery
The battery (FX3U-32BL) used in FX3UC can also be used with FX5UC.
Precautions Regarding the Hardware
Comparison of FX3UC and FX5UC and Precautions for Replacement
The following list shows precautions of the hardware. Check details in the manuals of each models when replacing.
■Difference and precautions regarding the main hardware of FX3UC and FX5UC
Item
Extension of FX2N, FX2NC, FX3U, and FX3UC
Input hardware filter
(When the digital filter is 0)
• High-speed counter
• Input interruption function
• Pulse catch function
Input signal current
Difference
FX3UC
Extension possible
X0 to X5 is 5
s
X6, X7 is 50
s
X10 to X17 is 200
s
X0 to X5 is 6 mA
X6, X7 is 7 mA
X10 and subsequent is 5 mA
FX5UC
Extension is possible only for certain modules
FX5-CNV-BUSC or FX5-CNV-
BUS is required for extension.
There is no 0 setting.
X0 to X17 is 5.3 mA
X20 and subsequent is 4 mA
Precautions
Connection is not possible for some intelligent modules of FX3U.
There is no 0 setting, but no setting can be selected. (no filter)
Noises that were not detected by FX3UC may possibly be captured as an input. If necessary, take measures against external noises.
The input signal current has been lowered, so it is necessary to check the specification of the external devices when replacing.
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■External dimension drawing
There is some difference in the external dimension of FX3UC and the successor model FX5UC. Be careful when replacing the modules.
• FX3UC
External color: Munsell 0.08GY/7.64/0.81
Unit: mm
35 mm width DIN rail can be installed
[Accessories]
FX2NC-100MPCB power cable
FX2NC-100BPCB power cable (only FX3UC-MT/D)
W 13
Model name
FX3UC-16MT/D, DSS, FX3UC-32MT/D, DSS
FX3UC-64MT/D, DSS
FX3UC-96MT/D, DSS
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W: mm
34.0
59.7
85.4
Weight: kg
0.20
0.30
0.35
External color: Munsell 0.08GY/7.64/0.81
Unit: mm
35 mm width DIN rail can be installed
[Accessories]
FX2NC-100MPCB power cable
FX2NC-100BPCB power cable (only FX3UC-16MR/D-T)
W 15
Model name
FX3UC-16MR/D-T, FX3UC-16MR/DS-T
• FX5UC
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W: mm
34.0
Weight: kg
0.25
External color: Munsell 0.6B7.6/0.2
Unit: mm
35 mm width DIN rail can be installed
[Accessories]
FX2NC-100MPCB power cable
FX2NC-100BPCB power cable (only FX5UC-MT/D)
W
Model name
FX5UC-32M
FX5UC-64M
FX5UC-96M
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89.1
W: mm
42.1
62.2
82.3
Weight: kg
0.20
0.30
0.35
■Cable sizes for European type terminal block
Suitable wiring and tightening torque are described below.
Wire size for one wire
Wire size for two wires
AWG22 to
AWG20
AWG22
Wire ferrule with insulation sleeve
(wire size)
AWG22 to AWG20 Built-in RS-485 communication terminal block
FX3U-485ADP
FX5-485ADP
FX5-4AD-ADP, FX5-4DA-ADP
3.4
Conversion of the Projects
Tightening torque
0.22 to 0.25
N
m
0.20 N
m
Stripping dimensions of electric wire ends
9 mm
For the conversion method of the project, refer to Page 32 Conversion of the Projects.
3.5
Replacement of the PLC
The main points to consider during replacement of the CPU module and extension devices are explained below.
For details of each item, check the reference pages in this document, and related manuals such as the PLC Hardware Manual and Programming Manual.
Item Operation content and points of attention Reference page Device classification
CPU module
Other extension modules
Verifying operation of the equipment
Connector connection of the input/ output wiring
Connector connection of the 24 V DC power cable
Wiring to each module
The input/output connector and 24 V DC connector types and signal names are the same for FX3UC and FX5UC.
Reconnect the cable removed from FX3UC to FX5UC.
Perform rewiring for the connection part of the terminal block type.
The input/output connector and 24 V DC connector and signal names are the same for FX2NC and FX5UC. Reconnect the cable removed from FX2NC to FX5UC.
Perform rewiring for the connection part of the terminal block type.
Operation and test of the PLC program Operate the converted PLC program and hardware devices, and check and adjust the device function and operation timing.
Be aware of the precautions described on the reference page for replacing the project, and check that the devices operate as they are designed.
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4
Conversion of the Projects
When converting the projects of FX3U/FX3UC to MELSEC iQ-F project, perform the conversion by using GX Works3.
After converting the projects, it may be necessary to adjust the programs (instructions, devices) and parameters.
4.1
Operation Method for Replacing Projects
For converting the projects of FX3U/FX3UC to MELSEC iQ-F, perform by using GX Works3.
Conversion of the projects
Write with GX Works3 MELSEC iQ-F
GX Works2 format project data
Conversion
GX Works3 format project data
To convert the projects, install the engineering tool of the following version.
Engineering tool
GX Works3
GX Works2
Version
1.020W or higher
1.519R or higher
Remarks
Supplied with GX Works3.
GX Works3 only supports the GX Works2 format projects of FX3U/FX3UC.
When converting project data other than FX3U/FX3UC, change the PLC type to FX3U/FX3UC using GX
Works2. After changing the PLC type, check that there is no error using GX Works2, and then convert to
MELSEC iQ-F using GX Works3.
Precautions
• The projects cannot be read out from the CPU module of FX3 Series using GX Works3. To read out the projects, use GX
Works2 to read out. (GX Works2 is supplied with GX Works3.)
• To read out projects of GX Works2 using GX Works3, convert beforehand using GX Works2, and then read out the projects.
Even for projects converted using GX Works2, conversion may not be performed according to the state of the project. If there is an error in the program, read out will be canceled.
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4.1 Operation Method for Replacing Projects
Operating procedure
1.
Start up GX Works3.
2.
Open the project of FX3U/FX3UC.
Select [Project][Open Other Format File][GX Works2 Format][Open Project]Project (***.gxw).
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3.
The following message is shown. After checking the contents, press the [OK] button.
• The display contents may vary depending on the version of the software.
• Precautions for the converted project are displayed. Please read carefully through the contents before use.
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4.
When conversion is completed, the following message is shown.
5.
Check the contents of the model change result in the “Output window”.
Output window
6.
Set the converted program to “Scan”.
The converted program is stored in “No Execution Type”. Set to scan by any of the following methods.
• When setting in the “Navigation window”
Drag using the mouse and move to “Scan”.
Drag and move
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• When setting “Scan” by parameter
[CPU parameter]”Program setting””Program setting””Detail setting”Program Name
Set the program.
Precautions
• The program must be changed from “No Execution Type”. (Change to Scan, etc.)
• The program instructions and devices may have changed. Check the contents of the project. Also, the parameters will be deleted. Set the parameters if necessary.
7.
Set the model name of the CPU for the system parameter.
[System Parameter][I/O Assignment Setting]Model Name
Set model name.
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8.
Perform conversion.
[Convert][Rebuild All]
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4.2
Precautions when Converting the Projects
When converting projects of the FX3 Series using GX Works3, be careful because the program (instructions and devices) may be changed.
Instruction Replacement List
When converting the projects of the FX3 Series to MELSEC iQ-F projects, the instructions may be changed. They are described below also with the precautions.
Precautions of Instruction Replacement
■Function with "_E"
For functions with “_E”, the positions of the parameters are different between GX Works2 and GX Works3. Therefore the projects must be modified after conversion.
• GX Works2: EN is specified for the first parameter and "ENO" is the return value.
• GX Works3: EN is specified for the first parameter, ENO is specified for the second parameter, and the result is the return value. (The value is the same as function without "_E".)
■Data types of parameters
The parameter data type of some instructions, functions, function blocks of GX Works2, and the parameter data type of the instructions, functions, function blocks of GX Works3 are different. Therefore, an error may occur because of data type mismatch when reusing the program of GX Works2. In that case, modify the instruction name and parameter.
Ex.
INC instruction
• When handling a value exceeding 32767 (maximum value of word [signed]), replace to “INC_U”.
• When word [unsigned]/bit array [16-bit] type label is specified for the parameter, replace to “INC_U”.
■Instructions/FB/FUN that are not supported by the MELSEC iQ-F Series
For the instructions/FB/FUN that are not supported by the MELSEC iQ-F Series, refer to the following manual to correct the program so that the instructions/FB/FUN will be equivalent to the one in the manual.
MELSEC iQ-F FX5 Programming Manual (Instructions, Standard Functions/Function Block)
INT
INTP
DINT
DINTP
RET
FLT
FLTP
DFLT
DFLTP
DTBL
SQR
Instruction Replacement List of Ladder Programs
FX3 Series
OUT T
MELSEC iQ-F
OUT T/ST, OUTH T/ST, OUTHS T/ST
• When the timer is 1 ms, it will be replaced to the OUTHS T/ST instruction.
• When the timer is 10 ms, it will be replaced to the OUTH T/ST instruction.
• When the timer is 100 ms, it will be replaced to the OUT T/ST instruction.
FLT2INT
FLT2INTP
FLT2DINT
FLT2DINTP
RETSTL
INT2FLT
INT2FLTP
DINT2FLT
DINT2FLTP
TBL
SQRT
Remarks
When a label is used instead of a timer device, the instructions will not be replaced.
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FX3 Series
TKY
DTKY
ARWS
RD3A
RD3AP
WR3A
WR3AP
LOADR
VRRD
VRRDP
VRSC
VRSCP
ZRN
DZRN
HKY
DHKY
SAVER
INITR
INITRP
LOGR
LOGRP
RWER
IVCK
IVDR
IVRD
IVWR
IVBWR
IVMC
ADPRW
PR
COMRD
COMRDP
REFF
REFFP
DHSCT
PLSR
DPLSR
RS
SER
RAMP
SORT
HEX
SORT2
HOUR
SQRP
DSQR
DSQRP
SERP
DSER
DSERP
HEXP
DSORT2
DHOUR
MELSEC iQ-F
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
IVCK
IVDR
IVRD
IVWR
IVBWR
IVMC
ADPRW
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
SERMM
RAMPF
SORTTBL
HEXA
SORTTBL2
HOURM
SQRTP
DSQRT
DSQRTP
SERMMP
DSERMM
DSERMMP
HEXAP
DSORTTBL2
DHOURM
Remarks
SM4095 is added to parameters of instructions. Change to an appropriate device or label.
These instructions are not supported by MELSEC iQ-F. Therefore, It will be replaced to OUT SM4095.
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FX3 Series
RWERP
INITER
INITERP
FLCRT
FLDEL
FLWR
FLRD
FLCMD
FLSTRD
ASC
MELSEC iQ-F
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
OUT SM4095
Remarks
These instructions are not supported by MELSEC iQ-F. Therefore, It will be replaced to OUT SM4095.
Precautions
When inline ST is used with the ladder program, read out of the program may fail according to the following conditions.
• If a syntactic error exists
• If the program exceeds 2048 words
If there is an instruction that is not supported by the MELSEC iQ-F Series in the program created using GX Works2, the instruction will be changed to the instruction using SM4095/SD4095.
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HEX
HEXP
INT
INTP
DINT
DINTP
SORT2
DSORT2
HOUR
DHOUR
BK+
BK+P
SQRP
DSQR
DSQRP
FLT
FLTP
DFLT
DFLTP
SER
SERP
DSER
DSERP
RAMP
SORT
Instruction Replacement List of Structured Ladder to FBD/LD
■Replaced instructions
The following instructions will be replaced to GX Works3 compatible instructions when converting the project.
FX3 Series
OUT_T
MELSEC iQ-F
HEXA
HEXAP
FLT2INT
FLT2INTP
FLT2DINT
FLT2DINTP
SORTTBL2
DSORTTBL2
HOURM
DHOURM
BKPLUS
BKPLUSP
OUT_T, OUTH, OUTHS
• When the timer is 1 ms, it will be replaced to the OUTHS instruction.
• When the timer is 10 ms, it will be replaced to the OUTH instruction.
• When the timer is 100 ms, it will be replaced to the OUT_T instruction.
SQRTP
DSQRT
DSQRTP
INT2FLT
INT2FLTP
DINT2FLT
DINT2FLTP
SERMM
SERMMP
DSERMM
DSERMMP
RAMPF
SORTTBL
Remarks
When a label is used instead of a timer device, the instructions will not be replaced.
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4.2 Precautions when Converting the Projects
FX3 Series
LDD<
LD<>
LDD<>
LD<=
LDD<=
LD>=
LDD>=
AND=
$+P
$MOV
$MOVP
LD=
LDD=
LD>
LDD>
LD<
ANDD=
AND>
ANDD>
AND<
ANDD<
AND<>
BKCMP<P
DBKCMP<
DBKCMP<P
BKCMP<>
BKCMP<>P
DBKCMP<>
DBKCMP<>P
BKCMP<=
BKCMP<=P
DBKCMP<=
DBKCMP<=P
BKCMP>=
BKCMP>=P
DBKCMP>=
DBKCMP>=P
$+
DBK+
DBK+P
BK-
BK-P
DBK-
DBK-P
BKCMP=
BKCMP=P
DBKCMP=
DBKCMP=P
BKCMP>
BKCMP>P
DBKCMP>
DBKCMP>P
BKCMP<
MELSEC iQ-F
LDD_LT
LD_NE
LDD_NE
LD_LE
LDD_LE
LD_GE
LDD_GE
AND_EQ
STRINGPLUSP
STRINGMOV
STRINGMOVP
LD_EQ
LDD_EQ
LD_GT
LDD_GT
LD_LT
ANDD_EQ
AND_GT
ANDD_GT
AND_LT
ANDD_LT
AND_NE
BKCMP_LTP
DBKCMP_LT
DBKCMP_LTP
BKCMP_NE
BKCMP_NEP
DBKCMP_NE
DBKCMP_NEP
BKCMP_LE
BKCMP_LEP
DBKCMP_LE
DBKCMP_LEP
BKCMP_GE
BKCMP_GEP
DBKCMP_GE
DBKCMP_GEP
STRINGPLUS
DBKPLUS
DBKPLUSP
BKMINUS
BKMINUSP
DBKMINUS
DBKMINUSP
BKCMP_EQ
BKCMP_EQP
DBKCMP_EQ
DBKCMP_EQP
BKCMP_GT
BKCMP_GTP
DBKCMP_GT
DBKCMP_GTP
BKCMP_LT
Remarks
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FX3 Series
BOOL_TO_STR_E
INT_TO_STR
INT_TO_STR_E
DINT_TO_STR
DINT_TO_STR_E
REAL_TO_STR
REAL_TO_STR_E
STR_TO_BOOL
STR_TO_BOOL_E
STR_TO_INT
STR_TO_INT_E
STR_TO_DINT
STR_TO_DINT_E
STR_TO_REAL
STR_TO_REAL_E
STR_TO_TIME
STR_TO_TIME_E
TIME_TO_STR
TIME_TO_STR_E
MAXIMUM
MAXIMUM_E
MINIMUM
OR>=
ORD>=
IVCK
IVDR
IVRD
IVWR
IVBWR
IVMC
ADPRW
SQR
LEN
RIGHT
LEFT
LIMIT
DLIMIT
BOOL_TO_STR
OR>
ORD>
OR<
ORD<
OR<>
ORD<>
OR<=
ORD<=
ANDD<>
AND<=
ANDD<=
AND>=
ANDD>=
OR=
ORD=
MELSEC iQ-F
BOOL_TO_STRING_E
INT_TO_STRING
INT_TO_STRING_E
DINT_TO_STRING
DINT_TO_STRING_E
REAL_TO_STRING
REAL_TO_STRING_E
STRING_TO_BOOL
STRING_TO_BOOL_E
STRING_TO_INT
STRING_TO_INT_E
STRING_TO_DINT
STRING_TO_DINT_E
STRING_TO_REAL
STRING_TO_REAL_E
STRING_TO_TIME
STRING_TO_TIME_E
TIME_TO_STRING
TIME_TO_STRING_E
MAX
MAX_E
MIN
ANDD_NE
AND_LE
ANDD_LE
AND_GE
ANDD_GE
OR_EQ
ORD_EQ
OR_GT
ORD_GT
OR_LT
ORD_LT
OR_NE
ORD_NE
OR_LE
ORD_LE
OR_GE
ORD_GE
IVCK
IVDR
IVRD
IVWR
IVBWR
IVMC
ADPRW
SQRT_E
LEN_E
RIGHT_E
LEFT_E
LIMIT_E
LIMIT_E
BOOL_TO_STRING
These instructions will be converted to standard functions.
Remarks
SM4095 is added to parameters of instructions. Change to an appropriate device or label.
FX3 Series
MINIMUM_E
LIMITATION
LIMITATION_E
MELSEC iQ-F
MIN_E
LIMIT
LIMIT_E
Remarks
■Instructions that are not supported by GX Works3
The following instructions are not supported by GX Works3. The instructions are left as is when converting the projects, but an error will occur when compiling.
Instruction list
OUT_C_32
STL
RET
CJ
CJP
CALL
CALLP
SRET
IRET
FEND
ROR
DROR
ROL
DROL
REFF
REFFP
PLSR
DPLSR
TKY
DTKY
HKY
DHKY
ARWS
ASC
PR
RS
VRRD
VRRDP
VRSC
VRSCP
DTBL
ZRN
DZRN
RD3A
RD3AP
WR3A
WR3AP
COMRD
COMRDP
DHSCT
LOADR
LOADRP
SAVER
INITR
INITRP
LOGR
LOGRP
RWER
RWERP
INITER
INITERP
FLCRT
FLDEL
FLWR
FLRD
FLCMD
FLSTRD
GET_BIT_OF_INT
GET_BIT_OF_INT_E
SET_BIT_OF_INT
SET_BIT_OF_INT_E
CPY_BIT_OF_INT
CPY_BIT_OF_INT_E
Precautions
Even if the instructions are supported by GX Works3, a conversion error may occur due to the difference of the setting range of FX3U/FX3UC.
Instructions/FB/FUN that are not supported by the FBD/LD program will be undefined instructions/FB/FUN.
■Instructions requiring special action
The following instructions require action after the project conversion.
Instruction list
DHSCR
PLSY
DPLSY
PWM
SWAP
SWAPP
DSWAP
DSWAPP
DSZR
DVIT
DDVIT
DABS
PLSV
DPLSV
DRVI
DDRVI
DRVA
DDRVA
DHSCS_I
Action content
The connecting position of the parameter is different from GX
Works2.
After replacing to FX5, select the appropriate instruction and perform
“Edit”
”FB/FUN update” in the right-click menu, and then adjust the connecting position.
When an out of range “I” device is specified as parameter “i”, parameter
“i” will be replaced with P4095.
■Correction of structured ladder/FBD program
• The method of thinking for execution order is different for the GX Works2 structured ladder/FBD and GX Works3 FBD/LD language. Display the execution order and check the contents.
• The operation of the return element is different for the GX Works2 structured ladder/FBD and GX Works3 FBD/LD language. For details of the return element of GX Works3, refer to the following.
GX Works3 Operating Manual
• For the GX Works2 structured ladder/FBD and GX Works3 FBD/LD language, there are different cases in the input/output parameter numbers of the function parts/function block parts. In this case, it will be displayed as an undefined FB/FUN.
Select [Edit]
[FB/FUN update] to update the definition information, and correct the program.
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• When the program is made to refer to a standard FB member in the GX Works2 structured ladder/FBD, a conversion error may occur after opening with GX Works3. In this case, check the member name and class of the standard FB, and correct the program.
• For the GX Works3 FBD/LD language, the input/output parameter of the function parts/function block elements can only be inverted. When elements other than the above are inverted for GX Works2 structured ladder/FBD, the connecting line of that element will be deleted. Correct the program so that the operation will be equal to GX Works2 structured ladder/FBD.
• For the GX Works3 FBD/LD language, the wired OR of the FBD elements are not supported. Correct the program so that the operation will be equal to GX Works2 structured ladder/FBD, or a conversion error will occur.
• When using the pointer branch instructions (CJ), jump, and sub routine program, a conversion error may occur. For details, refer to the following.
MELSEC iQ-F FX5 Programming Manual (Program Design)
• According to the difference of the GX Works2 structured ladder/FBD editor and GX Works3 FBD/LD editor, the layout of the program may change. Correct the layout appropriately.
• Ladder block label used in the GX Works2 structured ladder/FBD will be defined as a pointer type in local label.
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IVCK
IVDR
IVRD
IVWR
IVBWR
IVMC
ADPRW
SQR
LEN
RIGHT
LEFT
LIMIT
DLIMIT
BOOL_TO_STR
SQRP
DSQR
DSQRP
SER
SERP
DSER
DSERP
RAMP
SORT
HEX
HEXP
SORT2
DSORT2
HOUR
DHOUR
Instruction Replacement List of ST Programs
■Replaced instructions
The following instructions will be replaced to GX Works3 compatible instructions when converting the project.
FX3 Series
OUT_T
MELSEC iQ-F Remarks
OUT_T, OUTH, OUTHS
• When the timer is 1 ms, it will be replaced to the OUTHS instruction.
• When the timer is 10 ms, it will be replaced to the OUTH instruction.
• When the timer is 100 ms, it will be replaced to the OUT_T instruction.
SQRTP
DSQRT
DSQRTP
SERMM
SERMMP
DSERMM
DSERMMP
RAMPF
SORTTBL
HEXA
HEXAP
SORTTBL2
DSORTTBL2
HOURM
DHOURM
IVCK
IVDR
IVRD
IVWR
IVBWR
IVMC
ADPRW
SQRT_E
LEN_E
RIGHT_E
LEFT_E
LIMIT_E
LIMIT_E
BOOL_TO_STRING
When a label is used instead of a timer device, the instructions will not be replaced.
SM4095 is added to parameters of instructions. Change to an appropriate device or label.
These instructions will be converted to standard functions.
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Instruction list
FLT
FLTP
DFLT
DFLTP
REFF
REFFP
PLSR
DPLSR
OUT_C_32
IRET
FEND
ROR
DROR
ROL
DROL
FX3 Series
BOOL_TO_STR_E
INT_TO_STR
INT_TO_STR_E
DINT_TO_STR
DINT_TO_STR_E
REAL_TO_STR
REAL_TO_STR_E
STR_TO_BOOL
STR_TO_BOOL_E
STR_TO_INT
STR_TO_INT_E
STR_TO_DINT
STR_TO_DINT_E
STR_TO_REAL
STR_TO_REAL_E
STR_TO_TIME
STR_TO_TIME_E
TIME_TO_STR
TIME_TO_STR_E
MAXIMUM
MAXIMUM_E
MINIMUM
MINIMUM_E
MELSEC iQ-F
BOOL_TO_STRING_E
INT_TO_STRING
INT_TO_STRING_E
DINT_TO_STRING
DINT_TO_STRING_E
REAL_TO_STRING
REAL_TO_STRING_E
STRING_TO_BOOL
STRING_TO_BOOL_E
STRING_TO_INT
STRING_TO_INT_E
STRING_TO_DINT
STRING_TO_DINT_E
STRING_TO_REAL
STRING_TO_REAL_E
STRING_TO_TIME
STRING_TO_TIME_E
TIME_TO_STRING
TIME_TO_STRING_E
MAX
MAX_E
MIN
MIN_E
Remarks
LIMITATION
LIMITATION_E
LIMIT
LIMIT_E
■Instructions that are not supported by GX Works3
The following instructions are not supported by GX Works3. The instructions are left as is when converting the projects, but an error will occur when compiling.
RS
VRRD
VRRDP
VRSC
VRSCP
INT
INTP
DINT
TKY
DTKY
HKY
DHKY
ARWS
ASC
PR
DINTP
DTBL
ZRN
DZRN
RD3A
RD3AP
WR3A
WR3AP
COMRD
COMRDP
DHSCT
LOADR
LOADRP
SAVER
INITR
INITRP
LOGR
LOGRP
RWER
RWERP
INITER
INITERP
FLCRT
FLDEL
FLWR
FLRD
FLCMD
FLSTRD
MOD
Precautions
Even if the instructions are supported by GX Works3, a conversion error may occur due to the difference of the setting range of FX3U/FX3UC.
When a character string constant is used in the GX Works2 program, be aware of the following points.
• When the character string is enclosed with a double quotation (”), it will be replaced with a single quotation (’).
• When using a (’) and (”) in the character string constant of GX Works3, it must be input as ($’) and ($”).
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■Instructions requiring special action
The following instructions require settings after the project conversion.
FX3 Series
DHSCS_I
MELSEC iQ-F
DHSCS_I
Action content
When an out of range “I” device is specified as the fourth parameter, it will be replaced with OUT instructions.
Device Replacement List
The following describes the device list when replacing the FX3U/FX3UC projects to MELSEC iQ-F projects.
Actions such as replacing the device will be necessary according to the content of precautions.
Device name FX3U/FX3UC Precautions
Input relay
Output relay
Auxiliary relay
State
Timer
For general use
For special use
For initial state
For general use
For annunciator (when using ANS instructions)
For annunciator (when not using ANS instructions)
100 ms
100 ms
Routine timer
10 ms
1 ms accumulated type
100 ms accumulated type
1 ms
Contact
Coil
Current value
X0 to X367
Y0 to Y367
M0 to M499
M500 to M7679
M8000 to M8511
S0 to S9
S10 to S499
S500 to S4095
ANS S900 to S999
S900 to S999
After replacing to
MELSEC iQ-F
X0 to X367
Y0 to Y367
M0 to M499
M500 to M7679
SM8000 to SM8511
S0 to S9
S10 to S499
S500 to S4095
ANS F900 to F999
S900 to S999
If necessary, replace the device number.
If necessary, replace the device number.
(When the ANS instruction is not used, but it is used as an annunciator, replacement to the F device is necessary.)
OUT T
T0 to T191
OUT T
T192 to T199
OUT T
T0 to T191
OUT T
T192 to T199
OUT T
T200 to T245
OUT T
T246 to T249
OUT T
T250 to T255
OUT T
T256 to T511
OUTH T
T200 to T245
OUTHS ST
ST0 to ST3
OUT ST
ST4 to ST9
OUTHS T
T256 to T511
TS0 to TS245, TS256 to TS511 TS0 to TS245, TS256 to TS511
TS246 to TS255 STS0 to STS9
TC0 to TC245, TC256 to TC511 TC0 to TC245, TC256 to TC511
TC246 to TC255 STC0 to STC9
TN0 to TN245, TN256 to TN511 TN0 to TN245, TN256 to TN511
TN246 to TN255 STN0 to STN9
The routine timer must be set by the
Precautions when Using the Routine
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Device name
Counter
High-speed counter
FX3U/FX3UC
16-bit up counter for general use
16-bit up counter for
32-bit bidirectional counter for general use
32-bit bidirectional counter for keep
Contact point
C0 to C99
C100 to C199
C200 to C219
C220 to C234
Coil
Current value
1-phase 1-count input
1-phase 2-count input
2-phase 2-count input
CS0 to CS199
CS200 to CS234
CC0 to CC199
CC200 to CC234
CN0 to CN199
CN200 to CN234
C235 to C245
C246 to C250
C251 to C255
Data register
Contact point
Coil
Current value
For general use
For special use
File register
Index register 16-bit Z device
16-bit V device
32-bit Z device (at modification of direct value)
Extension register
Extension file register
Pointer Normal pointer
END pointer
Interrupt
Input interrupt (delay interrupt)
CS235 to CS255
CC235 to CC255
CN235 to CN255
D0 to D199
D200 to D7999
D8000 to D8511
File register
D1000 to D7999
Z0 to Z7
V0 to V7
Z0 to Z7
R0 to R32767
ER0 to ER32767
P0 to P4095 (except P63)
P63
I00
I10
I20
I30
I40
I50
Timer interrupt
Counter interrupt
I6
I7
I8
I010
I020
I030
I040
I050
I060
After replacing to
MELSEC iQ-F
C0 to C99
C100 to C199
LC0 to LC19
LC20 to LC34
CS0 to CS199
LCS0 to LCS34
CC0 to CC199
LCC0 to LCC34
CN0 to CN199
LCN0 to LCN34
C235 to C245
C246 to C250
C251 to C255
CS235 to CS255
CC235 to CC255
CN235 to CN255
D0 to D199
D200 to D7999
SD8000 to SD8511
Z0 to Z7
Z10 to Z17
Z0 to Z7
R0 to R32767
P0 to P4095 (except P63)
GOEND
I0 to I15
I28 to I31
I16 to I23
Precautions
Setting of the FX3 Series compatibility assignment and replacement of the device number are necessary by the parameter.
(Refer to Page 47 Precautions when
Using the High-speed Counters)
If necessary, replace the device number.
Substitution is possible by using the device initial value function.
If necessary, replace the direct value modification to the LZ device.
The battery mode setting is necessary.
Replaced to OUT SM4095
I00
I0
I10
I1
I20
I2
I30
I3
I40
I4
I50
I5
=1: Rise interrupt
=0: Fall interrupt
When is 2 to 9, it will be replaced with
P4095.
I6
I28
I7
I29
I8
I30
=1 to 99: Timer value
Replaced as follows.
I010
I16
I020
I17
I030
I18
I040
I19
I050
I20
I060
I21
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Device name FX3U/FX3UC After replacing to
MELSEC iQ-F
Precautions
Module access device Module number (0 to 7)
BFM number (0 to 32766)
Module number (0 to 15)
BFM number (0 to 65535)
The module number will be replaced increasing by +2.
Decimal constant
Hexadecimal constant
Real constant
16-bit: K-32,768 to K32,767
32-bit: K-2,147,483,648 to
K2,147,483,647
16-bit: H0 to HFFFF
32-bit: H0 to HFFFFFFFF
-1.0×2
128
to -1.0×2
-126
, 0,
1.0×2
-126
to 1.0×2
128
32 single-byte characters
16-bit: K-32,768 to K32,767
32-bit: K-2,147,483,648 to
K2,147,483,647
16-bit: H0 to HFFFF
32-bit: H0 to HFFFFFFFF
-1.0×2
128
to -1.0×2
-126
, 0.
1.0×2
-126
to 1.0×2
128
255 single-byte characters
Character string constant
*1 When the latch range of the device for keep of the FX3 Series is changed, the latch range must be changed.
*2 Set the parameter at [Parameter]
[FX5UCPU] [CPU Parameter] [Memory/Device Setting] “Option Battery Setting” in [Device/
Label Memory Area Setting].
*3 Set the interrupt setting by the parameter accordingly.
*4 The parameter is reflected at [Parameter]
[FX5UCPU] [Module Parameter] [High Speed I/O] [Input Function] [General/
Interrupt/Pulse Catch]. Also, the parameter is reflected to [Module Parameter]
[Input Response Time].
*5 The parameter is reflected at [Parameter]
[FX5UCPU] [CPU Parameter] [Interrupt Settings] [Fixed Interval Setting].
Precautions
Index modification of the S device (state) cannot be made on the MELSEC iQ-F. Replace as follows.
• When the S device without state management has its index modified, replace to M device to use.
• When the S device used for state management has its index modified and used for the ZRST instructions, program the
ZRST instructions for each batch-clear pattern.
The assigned device of the global label cannot be read out.
• Information of the assigned device in GX Works2 is input in the comment field. Refer to the comment field to assign the device again.
• When special M and special D have been assigned, they will be replaced and assigned to SM and SD.
If S device is set to the device memory data or device initial data created using GX Works2, it will be deleted.
If there is a device that is not supported by the MELSEC iQ-F Series in the program created using GX Works2, the device will be changed to SM4095/SD4095.
The default value is set to the parameter setting of device points.
4.3
Precautions when Replacing the Parameters
When converting projects of the FX3 Series to MELSEC iQ-F projects, the setting data of the parameters (PLC parameter and network parameter) and special module (intelligent function module) will be deleted. Therefore, it is necessary to reset the data with GX Works3.
Also, GX Works3 does not support the following parameters of the FX3 Series, so it is necessary to set with the PLC program.
• Network parameter (CC-Link)
• Intelligent function module parameter (AnyWireASLINK)
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4.4
Precautions when Replacing Other Functions
Precautions when Using the High-speed Counters
When the high-speed counters (C235 to C255) are used with FX3U/FX3UC, it will not operate by just replacing to MELSEC iQ-F. It is necessary to set the FX3 Series compatible high-speed counters and change the program by the parameter. For the setting procedure, refer to the following.
Parameter Setting Procedure of the FX3 Series Compatible High-speed Counters
1.
Select “Long Counter Specification” at the specification for High-speed counters.
[Parameter] [FX5UCPU] [Module Parameter] [High Speed I/O] “Input Function” “High Speed Counter”
“Detailed Setting” “Other”
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2.
Set the function of the high-speed counters used at FX3U/FX3UC.
Select the input comparison enable/disable of the counter device and preset input compatible with the FX3 Series, and select the control switch.
Changing the Program
Change the high-speed counter program by referring to the following program example.
[Example of program]
M0
K10000
C235
C235
Y001
Change to
M0
LC35
UDCNTF LC35 K10000
Y001
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Precautions when Using the Routine Timer
When the routine timer (T192 to T199) is used with FX3U/FX3UC, it will not operate by just replacing to MELSEC iQ-F.
The routine timer must be set by the parameter. For the setting procedure, refer to the following.
Parameter Setting Procedure of the Routine Timer
1.
Set the use of the routine timer and the leading device number.
[Parameter] [FX5UCPU] [CPU Parameter] “Memory/Device Setting” “Device/Label Memory Area Setting”
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INDEX
A
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 44
C
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 46
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 45
D
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 45
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 46
E
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 45
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 45
H
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 46
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 45
I
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 45
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 22,29
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 44
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 22,29
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 45
M
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 46
O
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 44
P
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 45
R
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 46
S
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 44
T
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 44
MEMO
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REVISIONS
Revision date
December 2015
Revision
A
Description
First edition
This manual confers no industrial property rights or any rights of any other kind, nor does it confer any patent licenses. Mitsubishi Electric Corporation cannot be held responsible for any problems involving industrial property rights which may occur as a result of using the contents noted in this manual.
2015 MITSUBISHI ELECTRIC CORPORATION
WARRANTY
Please confirm the following product warranty details before using this product.
1.
Gratis Warranty Term and Gratis Warranty
Range
2. Onerous repair term after discontinuation of production
If any faults or defects (hereinafter "Failure") found to be the responsibility of Mitsubishi occurs during use of the product within the gratis warranty term, the product shall be repaired at no cost via the sales representative or Mitsubishi Service Company.
However, if repairs are required onsite at domestic or overseas location, expenses to send an engineer will be solely at the customer's discretion. Mitsubishi shall not be held responsible for any re-commissioning, maintenance, or testing on-site that involves replacement of the failed module.
[Gratis Warranty Term]
The gratis warranty term of the product shall be for one year after the date of purchase or delivery to a designated place. Note that after manufacture and shipment from Mitsubishi, the maximum distribution period shall be six (6) months, and the longest gratis warranty term after manufacturing shall be eighteen
(18) months. The gratis warranty term of repair parts shall not exceed the gratis warranty term before repairs.
(1)
(2)
Mitsubishi shall accept onerous product repairs for seven (7) years after production of the product is discontinued.
Discontinuation of production shall be notified with
Mitsubishi Technical Bulletins, etc.
Product supply (including repair parts) is not available after production is discontinued.
3. Overseas service
Overseas, repairs shall be accepted by Mitsubishi's local overseas FA Center. Note that the repair conditions at each FA Center may differ.
4. Exclusion of loss in opportunity and secondary loss from warranty liability
Regardless of the gratis warranty term, Mitsubishi shall not be liable for compensation to:
(1) Damages caused by any cause found not to be the responsibility of Mitsubishi.
(2) Loss in opportunity, lost profits incurred to the user by Failures of Mitsubishi products.
(3) Special damages and secondary damages whether foreseeable or not, compensation for accidents, and compensation for damages to products other than Mitsubishi products.
(4) Replacement by the user, maintenance of on-site equipment, start-up test run and other tasks.
[Gratis Warranty Range]
(1)
(2)
The range shall be limited to normal use within the usage state, usage methods and usage environment, etc., which follow the conditions and precautions, etc., given in the instruction manual, user's manual and caution labels on the product.
Even within the gratis warranty term, repairs shall be charged for in the following cases.
1.
Failure occurring from inappropriate storage or
2.
handling, carelessness or negligence by the user. Failure caused by the user's hardware or software design.
Failure caused by unapproved modifications,
3.
4.
etc., to the product by the user.
When the Mitsubishi product is assembled into a user's device, Failure that could have been avoided if functions or structures, judged as necessary in the legal safety measures the user's device is subject to or as necessary by industry standards, had been provided.
Failure that could have been avoided if consumable parts (battery, backlight, fuse, etc.) designated in the instruction manual had
5.
6.
7.
8.
been correctly serviced or replaced.
Relay failure or output contact failure caused by usage beyond the specified life of contact
(cycles).
Failure caused by external irresistible forces such as fires or abnormal voltages, and failure caused by force majeure such as earthquakes, lightning, wind and water damage.
Failure caused by reasons unpredictable by scientific technology standards at time of shipment from Mitsubishi.
Any other failure found not to be the responsibility of Mitsubishi or that admitted not to be so by the user.
5. Changes in product specifications
The specifications given in the catalogs, manuals or technical documents are subject to change without prior notice.
6. Product application
(1)
(2)
In using the Mitsubishi MELSEC programmable controller, the usage conditions shall be that the application will not lead to a major accident even if any problem or fault should occur in the programmable controller device, and that backup and fail-safe functions are systematically provided outside of the device for any problem or fault.
The Mitsubishi programmable controller has been designed and manufactured for applications in general industries, etc. Thus, applications in which the public could be affected such as in nuclear power plants and other power plants operated by respective power companies, and applications in which a special quality assurance system is required, such as for railway companies or public service purposes shall be excluded from the programmable controller applications.
In addition, applications in which human life or property that could be greatly affected, such as in aircraft, medical applications, incineration and fuel devices, manned transportation, equipment for recreation and amusement, and safety devices, shall also be excluded from the programmable controller range of applications.
However, in certain cases, some applications may be possible, providing the user consults their local
Mitsubishi representative outlining the special requirements of the project, and providing that all parties concerned agree to the special circumstances, solely at the user's discretion.
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TRADEMARKS
Microsoft
and Windows
are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Microsoft Corporation in the United States and/or other countries.
Ethernet is a trademark of Xerox Corporation.
Anywire and ANYWIREASLINK are registered trademarks of the Anywire Corporation.
MODBUS
is a registered trademark of Schneider Electric SA.
Phillips is a registered trademark of Phillips Screw Company.
SD logo and SDHC logo are trademarks or registered trademarks of SD-3C, LLC.
The company name and the product name to be described in this manual are the registered trademarks or trademarks of each company.
Manual number: JY997D66201A
When exported from Japan, this manual does not require application to the
Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry for service transaction permission.
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Specifications are subject to change without notice.
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Key Features
- Analog functions
- High-speed input/output
- Expansion boards and adapters
- Positioning functionality
- Ethernet, MODBUS, CC-Link communication
- High-speed system bus communication
Frequently Answers and Questions
What are the recommended substitute models for FX3U and FX3UC?
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Table of contents
- 18 Outstanding Performance
- 18 Superior Drive Control
- 18 Improved Programming Environment
- 19 Selection and Replacement of the Models
- 19 Replacement of the Projects
- 21 Recommended Substitute Models
- 24 Precautions Regarding the Hardware
- 28 Recommended Substitute Models
- 31 Precautions Regarding the Hardware
- 38 Instruction Replacement List
- 46 Device Replacement List
- 49 Precautions when Using the High-speed Counters
- 51 Precautions when Using the Routine Timer