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VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD Q&A
BASIC FUNCTIONS
Q: What are the main differences between
VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD and VS-1880/1824?
A: Main differences from VS-1880/1824 are as follows.
• Accommodates 96kHz sampling rate
• 24-bit linear recording
• 2x R-BUS ports
• Newly developed pre-amp circuit on analog input
• Increased number of analog input jacks
• 17 motorized faders
• Mouse operation
• Information display function via VGA OUT
• SMPTE input
• Word clock input
• 3.5” hard disk drive installable with expanded
partition size to 10GB
• Dynamics processor (Compressor/Expander)
equipped on every mixer channel
• 4-band EQ
• Surround panning function
Q: About the Recording Mode
A:
• M24 (Mastering 24bit)
Audio from the analog inputs that passes through the
VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD’s 24-bit A/D converter,
and audio data from the 24-bit digital inputs will be
recorded and played as linear data.
When this mode is selected, the
VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD will function as a 16-track
recorder (tracks 1–16). When sampling frequency is
more than 64kHz, the VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD
will function as a 8-track recorder.
• MTP (Multi Track Pro)
Audio from the analog inputs that passes through the
VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD’s 24-bit A/D converter,
and audio data from the 24-bit digital inputs will be
recorded and played using proprietary Roland coding
technology (R-DAC).
Normally you should select this mode.
• CDR (CD-R Writing):
This mode allows you to directly create a CD image
file on your hard disk – this file can later be burned
onto a CD-R. Recording and playback will occur using
16-bit linear data similar to that of a CD player or DAT
recorder. In CDR mode, Tracks 1–8 are linked in
odd/even fader pairs, with their levels controlled by
the odd-numbered fader. Track 17–24 cannot be used.
• M16 (Mastering 16bit):
Recording and playback will occur using 16-bit linear
data similar to that of a CD player or DAT recorder.
When this mode is selected, the
VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD will function as a 16-track
recorder (tracks 1–16). When sampling frequency is
more than 64kHz, the VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD
will function as a 8-track recorder.
• MT1 (Multi Track 1):
This recording mode provides approximately twice
the recording time of M16 mode.
• MT2 (Multi Track 2):
This recording mode provides even longer record
times than MT1.
• LIV (Live 1):
This mode is appropriate when your hard disk lacks
free space or when recording live performances where
the total recording time is unknown.
• LV2 (Live 2):
This mode provides the longest recording time. This
mode is appropriate for live recordings of speeches,
and recordings made for reference purposes. Use this
mode if you have very little drive space left or you
aren’t sure how long the recording will be.
Q: Is it possible to mix down even when all the 24
tracks are occupied?
A: Yes. In the Mastering Room, you can mix down to the
empty V-tracks on tracks 23/24 while playing back 24
tracks.
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VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD Q&A
Q: How long is the recording time?
A: Recording time in each recording mode and sampling
rate is as shown in the following table. (unit: minute)
M24
MTP
CDR
M16
MT1
MT2
LIV
LV2
96kHz
662
1,989
994
994
1,989
2,651
3,181
3,977
88.2kHz
721
2,165
1,082
1,082
2,165
2,885
3,462
4,329
64kHz
993
2,983
1,491
1,491
2,983
3,976
4,772
5,966
M24
MTP
CDR
M16
MT1
MT2
LIV
LV2
48kHz
1,324
3,977
1,989
1,989
3,977
5,302
6,362
7,955
44.1kHz
1,442
4,329
2,165
2,165
4,329
5,771
6,925
8,658
32kHz
1,987
5,966
2,983
2,983
5,966
7,953
9,543
11,932
Q: How many tracks can I record/play back
simultaneously?
A: Maximum simultaneous recording/playback tracks in
each recording mode and sampling rate are as shown in
the following table.
Q: Is “Track Copy” possible between the different
projects?
A: Yes. You can import the tracks from a Project which is in
the same recording mode and sampling rate.
Q: Is it possible to record the fader location? Is it
possible to record the SENS knob value?
A: You can memorize the fader location in the scene
memory up to 100 patterns per Project.
But you cannot memorize the values for SENS, PHONES
1/2 and MONITOR knobs.
Q: Is it possible to monitor any one of the bus
sources via headphones?
A: Yes. You can assign any different bus signal to each of
two headphone jacks.
Q: How many locators can I recall at once?
A: One at once, but you can memorize 100 locators (10
points x 10 banks) per Project.
Q: Is it possible to undo/redo automix?
A: Yes. One level undo/redo is possible for automix
writing/editing on VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD.
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Q: Is it possible to record the effect parameters in
the automix?
A: No. It is impossible.
Q: Is it possible to use VS-2480 simply as an audio
mixer?
A: Yes. But 3.5” hard disk should be installed.
Q: Is there any limitation on the length of the
phrase assigned to the phrase pad?
A: On VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD, maximum length of
every phrase is limited within 24 hours. These phrases
recorded and edited are assigned to the phrase pads, so
the maximum length of the phrases on the phrase pads
are accordingly within 24 hours.
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VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD Q&A
EFFECTS
CD-R/RW DRIVE
Q: Are the effects pre-installed? Is it possible to
use the effect board from the previous
VS-series?
Q: Is it possible to use the CD-R/RW drive which
were used with the previous VS models?
A: VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD is shipped with one VS8F-2
effect expansion board installed, and you can start
working with two stereo effects. Plus you can add three
more optional VS8F-2 for eight stereo effects in total.
VS8F-1 is exclusively for VS-880 and cannot be used with
any other VS models.
Q: Which microphones can be used for mic
modeling?
A: Roland dynamic microphone DR-20, and AKG C3000B
condenser microphones can be used.
Q: Are 31-band graphic equalizer and realtime
spectrum analyzer available as I see on VM-7000
digital mixer?
A: When the sampling rate is 48/44.1/32kHz, spectrum
analyzer can be used. Also generator for white noise,
pink noise and sine wave can be used simultaneously.
31-band graphic equalizer is not equipped on
VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD.
Q: Is it possible to assign different mic modeling
settings to each signal from INPUT 1-16?
A: Mic modeling algorithm is 2 in/2 out configuration, and
you can set each channel differently. If you install four
VS8F-2, you can have eight effects running
simultaneously for 16 channels of different mic modeling
settings.
Q: Is there any pitch correction effect for vocals,
etc?
A: Pitch shifter algorithm is available but there is no
function to correct pitch on any particular syllable.
Q: Is it possible to insert the external effect
processor to the channel?
A: Insert connector is not equipped on
VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD but it is possible to use the
external effect processors. Please refer to the this manual
“How to Record with External Effects Devices
Connected (p. 7)” for the setting details.
From the point of view of sound quality, noise and
operational ease, using the internal effects on
VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD is most recommendable.
A: Any CD-R/RW drive for the previous VS can be used
with VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD. Please contact your
nearest authorized Roland distributors for the updated
information on the compatible drives.
Q: Which type of disc can be used with the
CD-R/RW drive?
A: There is no particular restriction but sometime trouble
may happen because of the bad quality of the media or
bad affinity between the drive and disc. Before you
purchase many discs of a kind, please check if it can be
used with your drive.
80-minute disc is not recommendable because of its
thinner groove for recording.
8cm CD-R disc (18-minute) can be used.
For your important project, we recommend you to
backup in multiple discs. Also, CD-R/RW disc is a
delicate medium and please handle and store with care
according to the precaution notes which come with the
disc.
Q: If I write an additional project to the CD-R disc
which is not finalized, will there be a silent gap
between the songs?
A: If you write in “Track at Once” mode, approximate 2
seconds of silence will be inserted in between
automatically.
Q: Is it possible to do “CD Write/CD Backup” in
eight times speed?
A: No matter how fast the drive is, writing speed to
CD-R/RW is limited to four times.
Q: When creating audio CD with “CD Write,” is it
possible to write the copyright bit?
A: No. Copyright bit is off when writing to CD-R.
Q: Is it possible to use the audio CD which is
written on VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD as a
master disc for mass duplication?
A: There are “Disc at Once” and “Track at Once” methods
for audio CD burning. Disc created with “Disc at Once”
method can be a press master.
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Q: Is it possible to backup additional Project on the
disc which already contains the Project?
SCSI DEVICES
A: Upon Project data backup on CD-R, it is always done in
“Disc at Once” and finalizes the disc at the end of backup.
So additional writing of the data is impossible even if the
disc has room.
Q: Can the SCSI devices such as MO
(230MB/640MB/1.3GB), 250MB Zip, and HD be
used for the backup? What about DVD-RAM?
If you try to write another Project on CD-RW disc, it
should erase entire data existing on the disc.
Q: How long does it take backup the Project on
CD-R/RW?
A: A 600MB Project is equivalent to a CD-R/RW disc. To
backup this with four times speed, it will take about 15
minutes and another 15 minutes to verify the result, 30
minutes in total. This may vary by the Project data
configuration and performance of the hard disk.
Q: What type of PQ signals can I record?
A: P and Q sub channel information is not generated on
VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD, and CD-R/RW drive
automatically generates in accordance with CUE sheet. In
other words, usual signals on audio CD such as TNO
(track number), INDEX (index number), P-Time
(program time) and A-Time (absolute time) are recorded.
Q: Is it possible to backup a 1GB Project on the
CD-R/RW disc?
A: Yes. You can backup using multiple discs.
Q: Is it possible to capture the audio signal in the
audio CD in the CD-R/RW drive which is
connected to VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD via
SCSI?
A: Yes. Please refer to the Newly Added Functions manual
“Capture Audio data from Audio CD” (p. 28).
(VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD system version 2.00 later)
Q: Is it possible to directly playback the Project
data in the CD-R/RW disc?
A: No, such function is not supported.
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A: If they accommodate with SCSI-2, they may work, but
Roland does not officially support them. DVD-RAM is
not supported at this moment.
Q: Is it possible to create the “image data” of CD
audio in the external hard disk connected via
SCSI?
A: No. Image data is always created in the internal 3.5” hard
disk.
Q: Is it possible to connect
VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD with computer via
SCSI to transfer the data?
A: No, such function is not supported.
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VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD Q&A
DIGITAL I/O
Q: Is it possible to connect two
VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD’s in cascade via
R-BUS to transfer audio data, various control
messages and synchronization?
A: Yes. VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD can transfer eight
channel audio data, MIDI Time Code (MTC) for
synchronization and MIDI Machine Control (MMC) via
R-BUS.
At this moment, control messages which came in via
R-BUS cannot be sent out through R-BUS. To synchronize
three VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD’s (or more), MIDI or
SMPTE should be used simultaneously.
VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD only has SMPTE input
connector, so you will need SMPTE distributor.
Q: Is R-BUS connector equipped? Is R-BUS cable
sold separately?
A: VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD is equipped with two R-BUS
connectors.
R-BUS cable does not come with
VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD. Please use the cable which
is attached to the other R-BUS devices, or order the
following cables.
• RBC-1 (1m)
• RBC-5 (5m)
Q: What digital devices can be used when
sampling rate is set to 96kHz?
A: Under checking and to be informed.
Q: Is it possible to use two digital in connectors
simultaneously?
A: When master clock of VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD is set
to word clock, and two sources are completely
synchronized with the same word clock, they can be
input simultaneously.
Q: Is it possible to output two different signals
from each of two digital out connectors?
A: Yes.
MIDI DEVICES
Q: Is it possible to connect digitally when
VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD is MTC slave?
A: Yes. But if discrepancy between MTC and digital master
clock gets larger, VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD may stop
playback.
Q: Is it possible to assign any MIDI parameters to
faders and pan knobs to control the external
device?
A: With “V-fader” function, you can transmit MIDI control
change message from MIDI OUT by using 16 faders.
The RBC-5 (5-meter R-BUS cable) does not support the use of
64 kHz or higher sampling frequencies.
When using sampling frequencies of 64 kHz or higher, please
use the RBC-1 (1-meter R-BUS cable).
Operation may be unstable when using the RBC-5 with the
DIF-AT or AE-7000.
Use the RBC-1 when use these devices.
Q: Is it possible to output the multi-channel audio
via digital out connector just like DTS and Dolby
Digital?
A: VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD does not have any
multi-channel digital audio encoding function such as dts
format. Or if you input dts signals to the digital input on
VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD, they cannot be decoded into
multi-channel signals. Please use the external
encode/decode device.
Q: Is it possible to do 5.1 surround mixing with
VE-7000 or J.L. Cooper MCS Panner?
A: By connecting VE-7000 via MIDI, you can remote control
each channel parameter. Joystick controls the surround
panning.
Other control devices will be supported with the future
update.
Q: Is it possible to control the
VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD mixer from the
external software on the computer via MIDI?
A: Yes. You can control the VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD
mixer with external MIDI information
(VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD system version 1.20 later).
Q: Is it possible to control the phrase pad function
with external MIDI keyboard?
A: No.
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DATA COMPATIBILITY WITH
OTHER VS MODELS
officially support other devices than the attached mouse.
Q: Is it possible to write the Project in Wave format
for Windows or AIFF format for Macintosh?
Q: Is there any compatibility of
VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD data with the other
VS models?
A: You can write the wave format for Windows (linear
.WAV format) to the CD-R/RW disc.
A: Yes. You can import and export the VS-880/880EX/890/
1680/1880/1824/1824CD and VSR-880’s project (song).
(VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD system version 1.20 later).
Q: Is it possible to handle the
VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD Project on the
computer?
Data export to VS-840 series are not planned to support.
Q: Is it possible to use the hard disk which is used
with the other VS model?
A: Only 3.5” hard disk can be installed in
VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD.
A: No. It is impossible to use
VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD-formatted hard disk, Zip
disk or CD-R/RW disc on the computer.
Q: Is there DAT backup/recover function?
A: No.
Q: Is there a data compatibility with ProTools?
A: No.
Q: Is it possible to recover a DAT backup song on
other VS model?
A: No. VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD does not have DAT
backup/recover function.
Q: Is it possible to recover
VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD’s CD-R backup data
onto the other VS models?
A: No. It is impossible.
Q: How much can I magnify the waveform display?
Is it possible to edit the waveform as minute as
on Fantom S/X series?
A. You can magnify the waveform display of the recorded
audio data to a sample level and set the edit point. But
minimum unit of the time designation is 16 samples.
Q: Is it possible to import/export the samples on
the phrase pad via CD-R/RW drive?
OTHERS
A: Yes. (VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD system version 1.20
later)
Q: Is it possible to display the information on the
LCD to the external VGA and operate?
Q: Is it possible to synchronize with the video
equipment?
A: Separate information such as playlist and channel
settings can be displayed in the external VGA. VGA
display can show more information at once with 256
colors and four times more dots than the LCD. And you
can operate on the external VGA display.
(VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD system version 2.00 later).
A: VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD is equipped with SMPTE
input. Synchronization with the equipment with SMPTE
output is possible.
Q: What type of VGA monitor can be used?
A: There is no limitation of the size of display. On
VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD, you can select the refresh
frequency from 60/66/70/75Hz, and can set the position.
Prepare a CRT or LCD typed monitor with VGA (640x480
dot) capability, and above refresh frequency.
Q: Is it possible to use a pen tablet or track ball
instead of the attached mouse?
A: Mouse port conforms to PS/2 but Roland does not
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Q: Is it possible to convert the sample rate on
digital input/output?
A: No.
Q: Do the faders have touch sensors to recognize
the current position?
A: No. To record the automix, you should set AUTOMIX
STATUS to WRITE.
Q: Is there Vari-phrase function?
A: No.
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Q: One of the stereo-linked faders does not move
as fast as another one.
A: This is just the movement of the fader and the internal
value follows exactly as is.
How to Record with External
Effects Devices Connected
There are two possible ways to carry out recording when you
have external effects devices connected; you can use the track
direct outs, or you can use the DIR path.
Using the track direct outs allows up to twelve tracks to be
output simultaneously in parallel, while with the DIR path
you can simultaneously output up to eight tracks in parallel
(including the R-BUS output).
Using Track Direct Outs
Sounds recorded to Tracks 9–16 are output from ANALOG
MULTI OUTPUT 1–8, external effects are added, and the
sounds are recorded to Tracks 1–8.
Externally Outputting Tracks 9–16
1. Press [TR1-16 (MASTER EDIT)].
2. Press [CH EDIT] on Track Mixer Channel 9. The display
switches to the Channel View screen.
3. Press [
“MIX.”
][
][
][
] to move the cursor to
4. Rotate the TIME/VALUE dial to switch the setting to
“OFF.” The sounds on Track 9 are now not sent to the
MIX bus.
5. Hold down [SHIFT] and press
[MASTER EDIT (TR1-16)]. The display switches to the
Master Edit screen.
OUTPUT 1 and 2.
11. Use the same process to assign “TR 11/12” to A.MULTI
3/4, “TR 13/14” to A.MULTI 5/6, and “TR 15/16” to
A.MULTI 7/8. The sounds on Tracks 11, 12, 13, 14, 15,
and 16 are output from ANALOG MULTI OUTPUT 3, 4,
5, 6, 7, and 8, respectively.
You can also make the Output Assign settings in the EZ
ROUTING Output Assign screen ([EZ ROUTING]→
[F3 (OUTPUT)].
12. Connect each output to the external effects.
Using the DIR path
The sounds recorded to Tracks 9–12 are output using AUX
A/B OUTPUT, external effects are added, and then the
sounds are recorded to Tracks 1–4.
Externally Outputting Tracks 9–12
1. Press [TR1-16 (MASTER EDIT)].
2. Press [CH EDIT] on Track Mixer Channel 9. The display
switches to the Channel View screen.
3. Press [
“DIR 1.”
][
][
][
] to move the cursor to
4. Rotate the TIME/VALUE dial to switch “DIR 1” to “ON”
(highlighted).
5. Press [
“MIX.”
][
][
][
] to move the cursor to
6. Rotate the TIME/VALUE dial to switch the setting to
“OFF.” The sounds on Track 9 are now not sent to the
MIX bus.
7. In the same way, turn on DIR 2 for Track 10, and DIR 3
for Track 11.
6. Press [F3 (OUTPUT)]. The display switches to the
Output Assign screen.
7. Press [
][
][
][
“TRACK DIRECT OUT.”
] to move the cursor to
8. Rotate the TIME/VALUE dial to switch the setting to
“ON.” The VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD switches to
Track Direct Out mode.
9. Press [
][
“A.MULTI 1/2.”
][
][
] to move the cursor to
10. Rotate the TIME/VALUE dial to connect “A.MULTI
1/2” and “TR 9/10.”
You can press [ENTER] with “DIR” at this point to show the
DIR usage status.
8. Hold down [SHIFT] and press
[MASTER EDIT (TR1-16)]. The display switches to the
Master Edit screen.
9. Set DIR 1–4. You can set the level and the point from
which the signals are sent from the channel (Pre/Pst).
10. Press [F3 (OUTPUT)]. The display switches to the
Output Assign screen.
The sounds on Tracks 9 and 10 are output from ANALOG
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11. Press [
][
“AUX A L/R.”
][
][
] to move the cursor to
12. Rotate the TIME/VALUE dial to connect “AUX A L/R”
and “DIR 1/2.”
The sounds on Tracks 9 and 10 are output from AUX A.
13. Use the same process to assign “DIR 3/4” to “AUX B
L/R.” The sounds on Tracks 11 and 12 are output from
AUX B.
12. In the same way, put Tracks 2–8 into recording standby
mode (light flashing in red).
13. Hold down [STATUS] for Input Mixer Channel 1. The
display switches to the Quick Routing screen.
14. Press [F4 (AllClr)]. All track assignments are cleared.
15. Press [IN 1–16 (SOLO)].
16. Press [SELECT] for Input Mixer Channel 1. Input 1 is
assigned to Track 1.
17. Press [STATUS] for Channel 2.
You can also make the Output Assign settings in the EZ
ROUTING Output Assign screen ([EZ ROUTING]→
[F3 (OUTPUT)].
14. Connect each output to the external effects.
Recording the Sounds Output from the
External Effects to the Tracks
1. Connect the outputs of the external effects to ANALOG
INPUT 1–8 (if using track direct outs as mentioned
above).
2. Hold down [SHIFT] and press
[PATCH BAY (EZ ROUTING)]. The display switches to
the Patch Bay screen.
3. Press [
][
][
“INPUT MIXER 1 2.”
][
18. Press [SELECT] for Channel 2. Input 2 is assigned to
Track 2.
19. In the same way, assign Inputs 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 to
Tracks 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8, respectively.
20. Press [HOME (DISPLAY)]. The
VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD switches to Home
condition.
21. Press [REC]. The VS-2480/2480CD/2480DVD enters
recording standby mode.
22. Press [PLAY]. Recording begins.
23. Press [STOP]. Recording stops.
] to move the cursor to
4. Rotate the TIME/VALUE dial to connect ANALOG
INPUT 1 2. ANALOG INPUT 1 and 2 are input to the
Input Mixer Channels 1 and 2.
5. In the same way, connect “ANALOG INPUT 3 4” to
“INPUT MIXER 3 4,” “ANALOG INPUT 5 6” to “INPUT
MIXER 5 6,” and “ANALOG INPUT 7 8” to “INPUT
MIXER 7 8.” ANALOG INPUT 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 are
input to the Input Mixer Channels 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8,
respectively.
6. Press [IN 1–16 (SOLO)].
7. Hold down [CLEAR] and press [CH EDIT] for Input
Mixer Channel 1. The level for Input Mixer Channel 1 is
set to 0 dB.
8. In the same way, set the levels for Inputs 2–8 to 0 dB.
9. Press [PLAY] to play back the project, and confirm that
sound from Inputs 1–8 is being output.
10. Press [MASTER EDIT (TR1-16)].
11. Hold down [REC] and press [STATUS] for Input Mixer
Channel 1. Track 1 enters recording standby mode (light
flashing in red).
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