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8-1784,
84784,was
wasinterviewed
interviewedat
at bis-plsoe
bis-plaoe
,
of enployient
enployient,
Thomas
ThomasY.
T. Pickett
Pickett Company,
Company, 4000
4000 Cedar
Cedar
Springs, Dallas, at which time
tine he furnished the following
followimg
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information:
was
.
He advised that from 1955 to 1957, be. was
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employed as a"roon
a'roon clerk
clerk at
at the
the Adolphus
Adolphus Hotel
Hotel at
at DD flan,
llas,j,j„.44/
fby the
the name
name of
together
with aa close
close associatel
associateby
together with
.
He could recall that durlimuthis particular employment, her
was introduced to JACK RUBY and believed that this
omarrr stated
introduction was made
made by
by JOHN
JOHN RICKY.
HICK!. Mr.
Mr. GARITTY
that he had conversed with JACK
RUBY on a few occasions but
JACK RUBY
that he never really got to know RUBY until 1960 at which
tine RUBY approached him in regard to obtaining a membership'
time
for RUBY's new club called the Sovereign Club. RUBY
for
his at this time that he was opening a new
advised him
private night club and that he would be more than glad to
give a free membership to anyone that would help bim
him
club. GARITTY stated thatthat
obtain other members
.
that,they
he
be and
and JOHN
JOHN RICKY
RICKY %old
,they would
would make
maks every
every
toldflUBY that
effort to obtain additional members for his new club.
GARITTY stated that he could not recall actually ever
and that
that the only
obtaining any members for RUBY's
RUBY's club
club and
reason he and RICKY
associated with
with RUBY
RUBY at
at this
this '
RICKY had associated
particular time was to obtain free membership to the
club. Be stated that he could recall talking with RUBY
on several occasions during the beginning of this new club
and could recall that
that RUBY
RUBY was
was having a very difficult time
in obtaining members. Be
Re could recall one specific incident
when he net win
wii RUBY at the Waffle Shop in Oak Lawn. At - 'was hating
having JR
a Olal
rIal bard
bard
. this time, RUBY advised him
hin that
thatheheves
time making ends meet concerning the new club and was very
despondent. GARITTY
GARITTY could
could recall
recall telling RUBY
RUBY that
that it'
did not look
look as
as bad
bad as
as he
he was
was making
making it
it appear
appear aid
*4 that
Vga that
that he
he and RICKY
RICKY would
he reassured Spa
would do everything
in their power to obtain members and make the club a
success. GARITTY stated that when he told RUBY this, he noticed that RUBY got very emotional and noticed that he
was either crying or felt so bad that tears were coming
from his eyes. He stated that he was very such surprised
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Fi observing RUBY
RUBYin
in this manner because he had
bad always
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' regarded RUBY as being somewhat of a "tough guy" and wadi_
woad ii
never think
think that
that RUBY
RUBYwas
was quite
kr-'
quite this
this emotional.
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(mann
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on to say that he never did sell
any memberships
memberships to
to the
the club
club and
and his
his relationship
relationshipwith
withWRY
Oat
finally broke
broke up.
up. GARITTY
WWII,' could
could mot
not recall
recall the
the last time
be
be saw
sawRUBY
RUBY but
but was under the impression that be bad seen
his
bin on the street near the Adolphus Rotel sometime during
gunner of 1963. Re advised that he noticed
this past summer
nothing unusual concerning RUBY and had heard nothing that
would be unusual
unusual in
in regard
regard to
to RUBY's
RUBY's activities.
activities. Se
Re
*felt he knew RUBY quite well, be
advised that although he 'felt
did not have any information pertaining to RUBY'S
RUBY'. background,
background,
friends or associates. RUBY always seemed to be very
friendly toward all his customers and had always treated
them
then with very high regard.
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In regard to RUBY's
RUBY's actions
actions on
on November
Noveliber24,
24,1963,.
1963,—.
Ir.
Yr. GARITTY stated that he is of the opinion that RUBY
shot OSWALD
shot
OSWALD because
because RUBY
RUBY was actually emotionally involved".
Re
He explained this by saying that RUBY has very strong
feelings and was
was of
of the
the opinion
opinion that
that this
thiswas
wasRUBY's
RUBY's normal
reaction in such a desperate time.
HARVEY OSWALD
OSWALDwas
was unknown
GARITTY stated that LEE
LEE HARVEY
to him
hin prior
prior to
to the
theassassination
assassinationofof
President
President
LINNEDY
MUD? and
he had never seen nor heard of anything that would connect
RUBY and OSWALD.
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On December 23, 1963,TifARRY HOPE Identification
Bureau, Houston Police Department,and BO RICHARDS, Identification Section, Harris County Sheriff's Office, advised
that their files contained no information identifiable with
with
BETTY GUESS.
On December
December 24,
24,1963,
1963,Mrs.(tIALIE
MirsILLIE FUTRELL
FUTRELL Inter
Interviewer, Credit Bureau of Greater Hous on
an advise that she
could locate
locate no
no record
record in
in the
the files
files of
of tha
that
Bureauidentiidentit Bureau
fiable with BETTY GUESS.'
GUESS."
Available Houston city directories and telephone
directories contain no information identifiable with BETTY
GUESS, and there is no information identifiable with her •
in the Houston files of the FBI.
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GEORGE
GEORGE e.rGUEST,
WGUEST, 4562
4562 Sloganvilla
Boganvilla Drive,
Drive,
advised that he was born on.
en. Nay.16,
May.16, 1923,
1923, at Chicago
.weights,
Jleights, Illinois,
Illinois, and
andwas
Ka
was employed
employedasasa amusioian.
musician.. ft
was married,
married, but
but divorced
divorced since
aims September,
September, 1952,
following which
whisk time he
be traveled extensively giving
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performances on behalf of the 080 which took his to
• many countries around the world.
He advised that following the war, he
eontinued
continued to follow his profession as a marimba player
with engagements in various hotels around Chicago, and
subsequent thereto in various areas of Texas..
Texas., Es
advised that be went to Dallas, Texas, in 1955,
1955, but
established no permanent residence for about six
'months.
months.
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Ma stated that
thatduring
during the
the tall
fall of
of 1955,
1955, be
and GEORGE SENATOR, with whom
when he had bacons
become acquainted
while repiding
repiding in
in Dallas,
Dallas, Texas,
Texas, shan't)
shared an
an apartment
n Mb
Mb Kinney Avenue, which was owned by a Mr. WILLIAM
MASON.
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He advised that he and Mr. SENATOR shared
shank, this
apartment for about six months, at which time be left
loft
the apartment
apartment and
and moved
omid into
into an
an apartment
apartment with Mr.
ROCHE. • .)1-410.„,
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Mr. GUEST stated he had previously known Mr..
Mt.
LA ROCHE from Chicago, Illinois, and when LA ROCHE cam:,
cosi,
LA
to Dallas as a representative of the Canada Dry Companyi,
Company:,
they renewed their aoquaintanoes
aoquaintances and then decided to take
an apartment together since he was dissatisfied with the
- conduct
conduct of
of GEORGE
mom SENATOR.
He advised
SENATOR. He
advised that
that he
he and
and Mr.
Mr. •
LA ROCHE renovated
renovated aa stable
stable on
onea large
large plantation
plantation near
near Dallas,
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apartment
for about
for about
one year prior to the time be
be met and
andnarried
myriad
his his
preseq'wirc
preseay'wift.
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advised *that
'that he Rot
yet his
his wife
In January
wife
In January
it 1957, at 1
and they --baremarried
bere married inin
awe
et 1957,
JUne
of 1957,
and thenand
moved
then moved.
to Lauderdale AV
Ar the Sea,
to
Sea, Merida,
Merida, in
in January
January 019,41,
411 19,41,
and he had never returned to Dallas
Dallassines
since
that Use.
that time.
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Nr. GUEST advised that during
duringthethe
six months
six months
that he resided in the same apartment with GEORGE
OBOROE
SENATOR, he observed SENATOR
SENATOR to
to have
have
many
new
moon
lumen in
the apartment,
apartment, and
and he
he bowsaw
becalm Quite
quite well known
known for
for
his
his promiscuous
promiscuous behavior
behaviorwith
withwomen.
women.
that SENATOR
SENATORhadhad
beenbeen
his
Mb also pointed out that
divorced shortly prior to
tothat
that
tine from
tinea woman
free awho
woman who
IS
believed to
Miami, S2orida,
is believed
to be
be residing
residing somewhere in Mast,
Plorida,
but whose
whose name
name and
and present address he
he did
didnot
not
know.
know.
W.
NW. GUEST further stated that through his
his association
association
GetJACK
L. =Drop
RUBY on •
with
with CHARLES LA ROCHE, be'
be wet
JACK L.
possibly
possibly two
two or
or three
three occasions.
occasions.- H.
advised
thatthat
AW advised
length
of tine
of tine
these oontacts
contacts were limited to the
the length
RUM's cafe,est.,
•
it would take to consume a drink in Mrs
business
setters.
on business
while LA ROCHE was
wastalking
talking
to RUBY'
to RUBY'on
manors.
personal knowledge
knowledge
Es
stated that be
he did
did not
not have any 'swoonsl
He stated
in
the time
time he
he net
wetbinbin
in •
concerning RUBY
RUBY prior
prior to
to the
personal traitstraits
about his
his personal
Dallas,
Dallas, and
and knew
knew nothing
nothing about
or habits.
-•
best
of his
of his
Kr,
Ne. GUEST
GUEST advised
advised
thatthat
to the to the boot
anything
anything
that would
that would
knowledge he had never obaaryed
observed
sEosalc UJUTOR
either &sows
SZAATOR or
orJACK
JACK. -that either
cause him to think that
BIM
ROSY were
were howosexually
homoaexually inclined.
inclined.
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he had never
Mr. QUEST also advised
advised that be
prior to the time
OSWALD
heard or
of the
the name of LSE
LEE HARVEY
heard
President JOHN P. .
of
assassination of the late President
or the assassination
KENNEDY
and since
since he
he had
bad not
not been
been in
in Dallas
Mlles,, Texas
KENNEDY and
whether OSWALD
knowing whether
or knowing
since
since 1958, be hid no way of
was
assobiated with RUBY prior to the time RUBY
was ever assobiated
OSWALD.
killed OSWALD.
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JAC ARDEE,_JR._ was interviewed at the Mobile"
"labile"
'.County
--County Jail,
Jail, Mobile,
Mobile, .Alabama,
Alabama, where he is incarcerated in
f.• ▪
', federal custody. He was advised that
that he
he did
did not
not have
have to
to -1,
' speak
speak with
with interviewing
interviewing agents;
agents; that
that anything
anything he
he said
said could
could.';-,,,.
' be
be used
used against
againsthim
himin
inaacourt
courtofoflaw;
law;and
and
that
that
hehe
could
could'.--t- '7,‘ -4,_
4,1 -i-. have the advice of an attorney prior to the interview.' - 116
lio'ir.s,f‘Ai',..:.1b.s-,-;4"..-1,
usedtoto
induce
vere used
indUce
hishim
to melte
--, vkiik*:
threats, promises,
promises, or,
.or,duress:
duress
were
to ..makes.
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,HARDEE stated that he was
was born
born near
near ItemphiS,
Itemphis,
Tennesseeyand
andhe
hewas
was38
38years
yearsold.
old.lie
liestated
stated that
that he
he has
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travellediextensively
throughoutthe
thesouthern
southernpart
partofofthe
the' '
travelled
extensively throughout
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stated
statedthat
thathe
hehas
hasspent
spentsome
some time
time '• in '
.
HARDEE
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v., Dallas,
Dallas, Texas, and he
he had
had met
met JACK
JACKRUBY
RUBYduring
during.the
.thecourse
course_of
,ot:-,,‘,....
, ‘ .... -:Re stated that approximately one ..‘,-,71.;‹:.-•
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: . his contacts in Dallas. He
ot::
.s. ,...ttyear ago,
ago, while
while in
in Dallas,
Dallas, Texas,
Texas, he
he attempted
attempted to
to set
set up
at
it '-,.,...
.1.:t.- - . year
up 4..,::
,::.
he .=, - - '
-numbers
game,and
andhe
hewas
wasadvised
advised by
by an
an individual,
individual, whom he
s game,
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tii;
Aljvi.i: did
did
not
not
identify,
identify,
that
thatininorder
orderto
tooperate
operate in Dallas
Dallas it
itwas
was ,
.=•_-,,,,,I.,necessary to
tohave
havethe
theclearance
clearance of JACK
JACK RUBY.
RUBY.He
Hestated..
stated..
„- necessary
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'. thatthis
thisindividual,
individual,whom
whomhe
hedid
didnot
notidentify,
identify, told
told him
him that
0 .?-•,:
ir1..- thet
RUDYhad
hadthe
the"fix"
"fix" with
with the county
county authorities
authorities,*and
that any
any.
,' andthat
i_96, -;::;RUBi
(00,,4t
1N:'
ly-,"
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-. other...fix
other ..fix being
being placed
placedwould
wouldhave,
haveto
, tobe'
be done
done through
throughRUIN
RUBY-,-.-- :—
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HARDEE stated
stated that
that he
he did
did' not'like
not likeRUBY
RUM upon
upon their
their -i,,;
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firstcontact,
contact, and
and this,
this, coupled
coupled with
with aa change
change in
in his
his plans,
plans,v"
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"Mich was
was unrelated
unrelated to
to this,
this, caused
caused him
him to
to change his mind
. .. about operating the numbers game, and the plan fell through.
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stated that
thathehehad
hadalso
also
MK RUBY
HARDEE stated
metnet
JACK.
RUBY
.
because a girlfriend of his, whom he refused to identify,
went to'
to the
the Bent
Bent Elbow
Elbow Club
Club in
in Dallas
Dallas in
in en
en effort
effort to obtain
a job as a stripper. He stated that the was referred to the'
Cow Girl Club, and, from there, to JACK RUBY, where she went
to work. He stated that he was out of town at the time, and,
o • : J .upon
. uponhis
his'return,
"return, he learned from an undisclosed source that
,
. RUBY
RUBY was
was"messing
"messingaround"
around"
with
with
hishis
girlfriend,
girlfriend.
lieBe
stated
stated
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that he felt fondly - towards this.
this- girl, because she is the
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illegitimate daughter
daughter by
by him.
him. He
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stated in
in Um
the
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Course of the interview that the girlfriend was R Canadian,.
Citizen and the adopted daughter of an American woman. He
4-'indicated
. indicated that she had had some trouble with Immigration
.-,, Authorities'in Dallas recently and
and was
was granted
granted her
her, citisen-,
citizen- 4 *1 .- t.
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ship approximately ,thres,
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years,ago"
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HARDEE stated that when he heard that RUBY was
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attempting to have sexual relations with his girlfriend,
he, with two friends of his, went to RUBY's business places.'
place,--:'
and he personally warned RUBY to keep his hands off the girl. .
He stated that
that at
at that
that time
time RUBY
RUBY exhibited
exhibited to
to him
him aa nickelnickel- ...
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plated .357 Magnum Revolver, which he was wearing on his left..
hip stuffed inside his trousers. Because HARDEE had two
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friends with him, and RUBY had only two of his friends
friends.
present, the encounter was a- "Mexican
"Mexican Stand-Off",
Stand-Off", and
and RUBY
RUBY _
accepted HARDEE's warning.
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During the'period
the*period that
that HARDEE
HARDEE was
was in
in Dallas
Dallas 74
approximately one
on:
:;..i;,,4‘‘
one year
year ago,
ago, he
he was
was in
in RUBY's
RUBY'S presence
presence on..1
several' occasions.He.stated
He.statedthat
that RUBY
RUBY impressed
impressed him
him as ;
7*cseveral'occasions.
being the type of individual who
whO would kill without much—.
provocation.
, 4,
HARDEE also stated that the police officer wham
HARVEY LEE
LEE OSWALD
OSWALD allegedly
allegedly killed
killed after
after he
he allegedly
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was aa frequent
frequent visitor
visitor to
to RUBY's-:
RUBY's
•
night club, along with another officer who was a motorcycle
s :`''`
patrol in the Oaklawn Section of Dallas. HARDEE stated from
•.
his observation there appeared to be a very close relationship
between these three individuals.
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that'he
HARDEE also stated that
he had seen RUBY in the
.Dallas Police Department wearing a gun, and officers. there,
whom he did
did not
not know,
know, were
were aware
aware that
that RUBY
RUBYwas
waswearing
wearinga agun-.,
gam'
time.
time.
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HARDEE stated
riL"-lk:i.'HARDEE
stated that
that he knew
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whose name
name he
he could
could not recall, a former
and his wife,
barmaid
barmaid for RUBY,
RUBY, were
were well-acquainted
well-acquaintedwith
withRUBY
RUBYand
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mould
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furnish information•about
information about him.
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stated'that
thathe.
he knows
of his
hisown
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knowledge that
that.. RUBY
RUBY hustled
hustled the
thestrippers
strippersand
andother
othergirls
girls:.----g.,....
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1 „--,,who worked
worked
in in
hishis
club.
club.
RUBY
RUBYmade.dates
made.datesfor
forthem,
them, accepting
accepting -4- -i..i.r
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the money
money for
for the
the dates
dates in
in advance,
advance, and kept half, giving
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the other half to the girls. These dates
dates were
were filled
filled In
in the
new hotel in downtown Dallas and the Holiday Motel in
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where RUBY
Irvington,
Irvington, where
associate,whom
RUBY had
had an associate,
whom HARDEE
HARDEEcould
could ...g ..;
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only identify. as a
a Negro
Negro who
who drove
drove.a
. abig..Cadillac...:
big,Cadillac, :-- -.1S-_ .1;:,' :-Z;!"- :.--.-7.
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an individual
individual he
he knows
knows ''7
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who
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and
owns
SOL's
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who
operates
and
owns
SOL's
BarBar
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Restaurant
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Main Street
was '-,..
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Street or
or Elm Street in Dallas, Texas,
Texas, was
on
.#4,. :,.- well-acquainted with RUBY.
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whose ease appearogi
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in
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address-book-of
book-Of JACK
imat RUBY,
RUBT,..furniehed
furniihed the
thefolloving
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She met
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JACK RUBY
RUBY approximately
approximately four
fouryears
yearsago
egoist
.
fk>"``''
•does
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not recall
recall bow,
bow, or
*or where
not
where she
she net
net him.
him. She
She said
said she
she assumes
assumes'
A= 'i,.
she mit RUBY throughoitOr JAME SOFIA or GNI JOHNS, ,friends of
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Miss HART
MART said
Miss
saidsho
she' has..teen
has.ibeenin
inthe
theVegas
Vegas and
and Carousel
Carousel -14'
. ;`• • ta.,; . " • •
,,Clubs
Clubson
onseveral
severaloccasions.
occasions..0he.said
She said RUBY
RUBY was
was always
always gentlemaaly
gentlomaalti
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in her
her presence;
in
presence; however,
however, she
she consideied
to be
considered him
bin to
be boisterous
boisterous ' ti..%
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and
and crude.
crude. Elbe
She said
said she.never
she never saw
his display
saw him
display aatemper.
.
. r
temper.
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• she aft RUBY throughlWiter..#INX BMA or GIGI JORNS,:friends of
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.c..:•,-r•:: • - . hers.
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Miss HART
BART said
said she
she never
never dated
dated RUBY,
RUBY, that
that all
all of
of her
ber ,
nesting. with
bin were
meetings
with him
were casual
casual meetings.
meetings.
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,
She said
said she
she never
neversaw
sawLIZ
LIESAMMY
WARM OSWALD
OSWALD at
at any'
any'of
She
of
..RUBY's
..RUBY'. clubs
clubs or
or in
in his
his company.
company. She
She said
said the
the first
first tine
tine she
she
saw
OSWALD
was
when
sheviewed
viewedhim
his on
on television
television after
after the
the
OSWALD
was
when
she
f saw
assassination
assassination
of of
President
President
.LKNIIIDY.
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She
carriedaa gun,
gun, but
but she
she
She said
said she
she heard
beardthat
thatRUBY
RUBY carried
never
never saw
saw his
his 'in
in possession
possession of
of it.
it.
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Hambees .Richar:NkTeitas
NTA Teias
Telephone AD
-7634,--ww se
Telephone
AD 55-7634,
se nano
name was
was listed as 61
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IIIUGHNI"ft,•
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as
AA possibly
possibly being
being either
either aa member
member or
ortemporary
temporaryliember
iember f4A0L,,
f4AOL„
•RUBY'S
RUBY's clubs,
clubs, was
was contacted,
contacted, at
at which
which time
time he
he furnished
furnished ti16 -:1-4`,'-- following
following information:
information: .
Mr. HUGHES advised
Mt.
advised'that
that it would be very logical
that his name appear as JIMMY HUGHES as a member of one of
JACK RUBY's clubs inasmuch as he was a member of the club
'referred to as the Sovereign Club. Be has known JACK RUBY
since sometime around
around 1955,
1955, but
but never
never regarded
regarded RUBY
RUBY as
as any,..
asps'
/—
thing but a casual acquaintance. Mr. HUGHES went on to say
that he has been in the club business for several years and has
automatically come into contact with several other club owners,
one of which was JACK RUBY. He stated that he has never had
any3engthy conversations with RUBY, and that to the best of
his knowledge, they never discussed politics. The conversations
always seemed to center around the entertainment field or in
the operation of the various night clubs in and around Dallas.
He could recall the last time he saw JACK RUBY was sometime in
is
1960, at a meeting of the various club owners in the Dallas
area. HO
He could
could not
not recall
recall all
all the
the individuals
individuals present
present atlhis
atlas
meeting, but was under the impression that the meeting was
called to organize some type of club to analyze the Liquor Board
Control standard regulations inasmuch as most of the club
owners were not fully aware of just exactly what they consisted
of. This was the last time he had either talked with RUBY and
believed that it was the last time he even saw RUBY.
He could offer no information whatsoever concerning
RUBY's background, friends, and relatives, and stated that he
had never heard of the name LEE HARVEY OSWALD prior to the
the
assassination. He knew of no connection between RUBY and
OSWALD; between RUBY and any member of the Dallas Police Department; and no one who was •
a member of the Dallas Police Department who worked for RUBY at any tine.
time.
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Telephone Number
Number LA1-5826,
LA1-5826, whose
whose name
name appeared
appeared as
as "MITZI
"Lath
HUMPHREYS
NUILPHRNYS '"
•" as
as aa member
member of
of one
one of
of JACK
JACK RUBY'S
RUBY's clubs
clubs in Dallas,
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was oontacted
oontacted and
and advised as follows:
Be
He advised
advised that
that he
be first
first net
net JACK
JACK RUBY
RUBY sometime.
sometime .
around 1945-1946, exact date he could not recall,- at the
Vegas Club, which he described as being a nightclub operated
at that time
tine by RUBY. 'Be advised that his acquaintanceship
with RUBY since around 1945 or 1946 has been strictly.a casual
one; hitbms_never
Imbas_never regarded
regarded himself
himself as
as being
being aa close
close aisociate.
associate.
He•stated
it. would be very logical that his name appeared as
Ne'stated it
a member or possibly •
a temporary member of one of JACK RUBY's
clubs, but.he could not specifically recall ever having joined
Joined
any of RUBY'. clubs. Although he could not recall joining
Joining
•
a club, itis possible that he did join
Join the Sovereign Club and
just
Just could not recall having obtained this membership.
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Although Mr. HUMPHREY was a casual acquaintance of .
•JACK RUBY, he could offer no information pertaining to RUBY'S
background, associates, or friends, and stated that he had
never discussed any type of politics that would lead.him
lead-him to
'=believe RUBY
'."believe
RUBY was
was interested
interested in
in same.
same. He
He knew
knew of
of no reason
as to why RUBY had shot LEE HARVEY OSWALD and stated that the
:•only
only information
information he
he could
could offer was that which he had read in
the local newspapers. He
Be has never heard or been acquainted
With an individual by the name of LEE HARVEY OSWALD prior to
the assassination and knew of no connection whatsoever between
.RUST and OSWALD; between RUBY. and any member of the Dallas .
.RUBY
Police Department; and knew of no one who was a member of the
Dallas Police Department who worked for RUBY at any time.
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12/23/6,
ty Special
Special Agent
Ag.et
Dallas,
Dallas, Texas
Texas
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Mrs. COLE1112)4ACOBSON,
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6123.4reston
Preston
Raven,
Maven,
that *he
that
*he and
and her
her husband,
husband,Dr.
Dr.COLEMAN
COLEMAN
ACOBSON,.
=BOON,.
advised:
advised,
bad
bad become
become
'
.-., acquainted
. acquainted
with
with
JACK
JACK
RUBY
RUBY
several
severalyears
yearsago
ago as
as they
they attended
attended -
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the
the
same
same synagogue.
synagogue.
-,
for
several
several years
years to
to invite
invite members
members of
of the
the sylagogue
synagogue who
who bad
bad moo
no
4.
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has
It
been
been
the
theIrractica40
- practica40
the
the
JACOBSON'
JACOBSON.
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families
familiesto
totheir
theirhome
home for
for the
the observance
observance of
of the
the Passover,
Passover,
that
since
since JACK
JACK RUBY
RUBY appeared
appeared to
to have
have no
no tastily,
family, be
he
.".invited
to
their
.She
. She
.
san
man
who
had
bad
gentleman
well
Slated
slated
no
by
on
RUBY
RUBY
appeared
appeared
and
that
be
he
time
her
be
he
had
bad
been so
several.occasions.
that
that
family
every
liked
home
and
and
had
children.
bad
had
visited
She
to
to
be
be
a
a
behaved
their
recalled
home.
he
be
lonesome
lonesome
as
•
RUBY
liked
little
little
perfect
was
dogs
quite
very
4
such,.
much,.
at
kept ‘
kapt
`the
one
time
JACOBSON
Ern.
Mrs.
of
the
never
having
dogs
JACOBSON
RUBY
had
many
the
no
beard
heard
of
LEE
HARVEY
and
RUBY
OSWALD.
shot
was
was
She
OSWALD
not
was
as
seven.
family
was
association
synagogue or
while be
be was
was
synagogue
or while
...
assassination.
assassination.
11124
Bh4
why
as
"bile
a
a
guest
guest
prior
aware
of
likeiise.
to
any
not
On
on
one
with
in
in
her
her
the
occasion
vacation.
RUBY
aware
outside
home.
She
Presidential
connection
connection
of
any
be
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between
between
reasons
OSWALD.
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Mrs. COLINAN
COLIKAX JACOBSON,
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0121 Preston
Preston Maven,
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Dallaso.
With whom
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whom she
she was
wasvisiting
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the
the
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interview.
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Mrs.,,.*I
Mrs.1 .,t„J,
that
thereand
UNMAN
advised
that
her
husband
died.retently
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that
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husband disd.retently
Mrs. JACOBSON at her
after she received a telegram forIle.'and
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-Watch amounted to an expression of synpathy
sympathy and
residence, which
!condolence
.condolence from JACK RPM
BUM 6he
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BUB? and was
him other
other than
than what has
aware of no
no information
inforaatien concerning
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appeared in various publications since the Presidential
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HARVEY
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whosename
nameappeared
appearedasas*SOW
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EXTZ3'in'the personal
personal -offsets of
,0 KETZS'In•the
of JACK,.
JAC1c. IRBY,
SUET,advised
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thathis
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member of one
one of
of JACK
JACK RUBY's
RUBY'sclubs,
clubs,inasmuch
inasmuch as he
be wawa
• member of the
lie Sovereign
Sovereign Club
Club when
when it
it first opened.
.- e
.stated that
that .he
he :first apet.RUBY
apet.RUBY around
He stated
around 1932
1932 or
orKUM
1,52
and could recall
recall an
an individual
individualby
bythe
thename
nameof
ofBOBBIE
BOBBIEMETERS,
INTERS,
who introduced
introducedhim
his to RUBY
RUBY .. INTERS
MUMS at
at this
this time
time wad the s4• called manager of the Studio Lounge, but is now &weasel,.
During
During his
his acquaintance
acquaintancewith
withRUBY,
RUBY,&ETES
'WES could
could recall
recall several
several
conversations, but most
mostof
of same
same were
were centered around the
entertainment field and to the best of his recollection, there
was never any discussion concerning politics.
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KEYES went
KEYES
wentonontosay.
tosay.that
that heheknew
knew'very
'verylittle
littleoesi-_,
obi
corning
corningRUBY'
RUBY 's background, but did recall
recall that
that RUBY
RUBY hlI
Julian
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intense
intense dislike
dislikefor
foran
anindividual
individualbyte
by the
hiota
into
of of
MILTON
MILTON 081110
telloa
who is described
described as
as aa local
local jewelry,
jewelry, salesmana
salesmana Se
Secould
couldmot
not recall -any specifics
recall-any
specifics concerninftRUBY's
concerningLRUBT's -ielationship
-relationship with
JOSEPH,
JOSEPH, but
but could
couldrecall
recallRUBY
mentioning JOSEPH
fewoccaoccaRUBY mentioning
JOSEPH ononaafew
sions. .KEYESpould
ZETESpould also
alsoremember
remember that
that an
an individual
individual by the .
name of IRVINVACANO
wasa apartner
partnerofofRUBY's
RUBY'swhen
when the
the Vegas
Vegas
XRVINVA4CANO was
Clublirst openedt .but could not elaborate on their association.
KEYES stated that he heard rumors to the effect that RUBY and k.
had "pistol
"pistol-whipped"
- whipped"
RUBY had
ALCANO had
ALCANO
had aafalling-out
falling-outand
andthat
thatRUBY
ALCANO several years ago. He could not furnish any information
concerning ALCANO, but had heard that ALCANO is now in the
florist business in New Orleans.
. •
KEYES
KEY= went
wenton
ontotosay
saythat
thatbe
belist
listsaw
saw RUBY
RUBY approxiapproximately two and a half months ago at the Variety Club, but was
unable to recatheir
conversation. Be stated that he knows
ll
of no
no specific
specificreason
reason
why
why
RUBY
RUBY
hadhad
shotshot
LEELEE
HARVEY
HARVEY
OSWALD,
°WALD, and
and
was only in possession of
of his
his own
own opinions
opinions along
along this
this line."
line.'
He knew
knew of
of no
norelationship
relationshipbetween
betweenRUBY
RUBYand
and
LEE
LEE
HARVEY
HARVEY
OSWALD
OSWALD
and expressed
expressed the
the fact
fact that
that OSWALD
OSWALDwas
wasunknown
unknowntotohim
his prior b
the assassination of President KENNEDY.
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Just prior to the close of the interview, ■r.
Mr.
KEYES stated
stated that
that JACK
JACK RUBY
RUBY had
had called
called the
the office
office of
of ELI?
ELM
about two and a half weeks ago and requested to talk with
GORDON
was not
mot is the
GORDON NC
MC LENLA1W,
LENLA1W, owner
Owner of
of KLIP.
KLIP.MC
MCLENLAND
LULA= was
office, at that time,
tine, so KEYES spoke with RUBY. Although be
be'•
could not recall the exact text of the conversation, KEYES
advised that RUBY stated that he was calling from the County.
Jail and that "BILL" let him sake
make the call. RUBY advised
KEYES that he had received several congratulatory telegrams
and it was RUBY's desire to have these telegrams printed is
the newspaper. RUBY requested that these telegrams be made
public, to show the people that "he wasn't
Wasn't such
such • bad person."
.
KEYES stated
stated that
that the
Ir. KEYES
the telephone
telephone conversation
conversation did
not last long and that RUBY mentioned nothing other than the
telegrams and the fact that he wanted them printed. KEYES
stated that he turned this information
information over
over to
to JOE
JOE LUG
of
LOG of
ILI?
III? for further inquiry.
KEYES further stated that the only other information
he possessed concerning the assassination of President KENNEDY
and the shooting
shooting of
of LEE
LEE HARVEY
HARVEY OSWALD
OSWALD was
was that
that which
which he
he had
had .,
read in. the newspaper.
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MARY L.-AHNIGIIT;
-AENIGIIT,--Wichita Falls, Texas, Telephone 767-7905, was
contacted at the above address, at which tine
time he advised he
.contacted
be .
is presently unemployed. He
He stated,
stated, however,
however, in
is about
about October
October .
'of
of 1963, he had been in Dallas, where he
be is • member of tbs.
Musicians Union there, and had attempted to form • musical .
group to play engagements in the local Dallas night clubs.
He advised that he bad
had been in the Carousel Club in Dallas on
several occasions. He stated on one of these occasion'
occasions/he
he had
purchased two bottles of champagne and had issued a $37 check
on his
his account at a Wichita Falls bank, SW
He advised this check
was insufficient and as a result of this, he believes two calls
had been made to his by the head waiter of the Carousel Club;
Club.
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Mr. KNIGHT
KNIGHT advised
advised that
that be
helm',
Lwow JACK
JACK RUBY
RUBY only in
connection with his visits to the Carousel. He advised be
.
anl4ad never associated with
had seen RUBY only in this club and4ad
his socially or in a business way. He advised RUBY apparently
him
did not know his name, as RUBY addressed MIME as, "Hi,
"Bi, pal." a. .
k_
KNIGHT advised he knew of no association RUBY eight
might .
.have
have had with LEE HARVEY OSWALD. He advised he did not know
whether RUBY habitually carried any weapon; he had never seen
a weapon in RUBY's possession. He reiterated, however, he had
bs.
only known RUBY through his vlsits'to
visits'to RUBY's night clu
clubs.
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ASSOCIATES AND ACQUAINTANCES
OF JACK RUBY
At White Plains, Westchester
County,
County, New
New York
The following investigation was conducted
by SA THOMAS B. LYNCH:
A review of current telephohe
telephone directories
A
covering Mount Vernon, New York, fail to reflect
a listing
listing for
for PAULA
PAULA EST.
=V.
j/PI-WI,Westchester Credit
erollestchester
0 NOEL
BATES,
NOEL
BATES,Mari5.
Man er,
0
Bureau, on
on December
December 14
14 19
19 3,
3, advised
Bureau,
advised they
they had a
record of
of LA PA
, who
who in
in 1958
1958 resided
resided at
at •
118 Pearsall Drive,
Drive, Mount
Mount Vernon. She was described
37 years of age, single, occupation-Secretary.
as 37
The Westchester Credit Bureau as of February, 1960,
received an
an inquiry
inquiry from
from the
the Dallas,
Dallas Texas
Texas Credit
Bureau indicating that LA PAULA KUHN
KUHN was
was employed
as a Secretary at Engineering Products Company,
7012 Fremont Street, Dallas, Texas, There was
a judgment filed against her-in
her-lb- a local court
during 1961 by the New York State Tax Commission.
It was noted that she at one time had an account
at the Chase Manhattan Bank,
Bank, New York, New York.
At Mount Vernon, New York
York .
Inquiry at 118 Pearsall
Drive on
on December 14,
14,
Pearsall Drive
1963, reflected that LA PAULA KUHN was unknown at
this address.
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PAULA UUN,.7012
UUN,.*012 Fremont,
Fremont Dallas/
Dallas ' advised
advised as
as follOwn:
follOws:
She has known JACK RUBY of Dallas,
Dallas, Texas,
Tpxas, since
since '4,
around 1950, during which time
tine he
be owned several clubs in the
Dallas area. She has not seen
seen his
his in
in the
the last
last five
five or
or six
six '
years and knows of no oonnection between RUBY and LIR gm*
Emir
OSWALD, as she is not acquainted with OSWALD.
..
$u explained
explained she
she maintains;
maintains a• residence
residence in
in Port
Port Worth,_
INglisu_at
4310 Jackson'
Jackson' in
in addition
addition to
to her
her Dallas
Dallas residence.
j_at 4310
INgas
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She explained that although she had know RUBY for many
years, it was her opinion he was merely a man who liked to on-•
joy life and to be around people. She.had
She.bad no insight into his
political or philosophical views.
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JR.,
Presiftnt,
t, Von
Ten -.
Presides
Brothers, Ina.,
Inc., 1BOS
1808 Bloc
Bloc-- advised
advised his company
oompany is the
Only Volk Company
Company in
in the
the Dallas,
Dallas, Texas
Texas area.
area. as
Me caused'
,
a search of the company personnel records to be aide
made
,
.
which disclosed no present or past employee named TOM
TON LASSISTER
LASSISTIR but
but that
that one
one TOM
TOM LASSITXR
LABIUM was
was formerly
formerly employed
employed -Tr,
in the
the shoe
in
shoe department
department on
on the
the second
aocond floor of the oompany a
downtown store. He
Beis
is currently
currently employed
employed as
as Assistant
Manager of the company's branch store at Live Oak and
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Skillman:
Br.
Mr. LANGSTON was not acquainted with JACK
RUBY
WHY and
and had
bad never
never heard
heard of LMB
LEE HARVEY
HARVEY OSWALD prior
to the President's assassination.
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TROMArtASSITSR,
LASSITZR, Assistant
Assistant Manager,
Manager, Toll,
Yolk, " 7 t 0'
Brothers, 'Inc".
Inc.,. branch store, Live Oak and Skillman
Skillman, ,t.t
Dallas, Texas, advised be d
residence 717 West Page, Dallas,
ha
had
'Iowa
been in
in JACK RUBY/I-Vegas
RUBY/i-Vegas Club not`iore than three
three or
or - 4,
,
times in
in his
his life;
life; the
the last
last time
time being
being approximatelyLl.
approximately
four tines
,
three and
and one-half
one-half years
years ago.ago. His
His only
only observation
observation
of RUBY was on such occasions and he doubted if
if he
he would:"
would.
recognize his
bin at this tine if he saw him. .Me
_Ma had never
heard of LIE
LSE HARVEY OSWALD prior to the Presidential
assassination and was not aware of any connection between
OSWALD and RUBY.
RUBY. He
He had
had no
no knowledge
knowledge op
or information
information
that members of the Dallas Police Department frequented
establishments
establiihments owned
owned by
by RUBY
RUBY and.
and had
had never
never observed
any officers during the few tines he
be attended the
•Vegas Club.
Club.
'Vegas
AA
Mr.
Mr. LAS
LAB ITER
ITU stated
stated he
he has
has been
been divorced
divorced from
his wife, MARGARET SUTER,
OUTER, for the 'past three years.
She currently resides on West 38th Street, Denver
Colorado, and is co-owner with her mother of the Low.
White Beauty Shop in Denver, Colorado. His wife was
never employed or in any way associated with RUBY .
according to his best knowledge.
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NORMANAC LEWIA,
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Anita Telephone TA
6-4032, advised
advised that
that she
she ormerly
5488 Anita
TA 6-4032,
orserly
resided
resided at
Eden
and Mis at5739
5739Gaston,
Gaston,ininthe
the
EdenRock
Rock Apartments,
Apartments, and_Olis
believed
believed she
she worked
worked at
at the
the Holiday
Holiday Inn
Inn or
or King's
King's Ripon
Room it
it
She says
says in
in 1959
1959
the
the Adolphus
Adolphus Hotel
Hotel
asasa awaitress
waitressin
in 1960.
1960. She
she
she had
had worked
worked
asasaastudent
student dance
danceinstructor
instructor at
at the
the Dale
Dale
Dane*
from the
Adolphus Hotel
DanceStudio
Studio across
across from
the Adolphus
Motelin
in an
an upstairs
upstairs
area. She
She first
firstnet
met
JACK
JACK RUBY
RUBY atata adelicatessen
delicatessen near
sear the
the
Dale
Dale Dance
DanceStudio.
Studio.She
Shesaid
saidthat
that both
both of
of these
these businesses
businesses
are
are now
now no
nolonger
longerin
inexistence.
existence. She
She said
said that
that she
she do..
does nit
not
recall
recall ever
everhaving
havingworked
worked for
forJACK
JACK RUBY
RUBY
oror
any
any
ofofhis
his night
sight
clubs and
and she
she never
never dated
dated him
him or
or had
had any
any personal
personal contact
contact
with
with him.
him. She
She advised
advised that
thathe
hemay
may have
have gotten
gottenher
hername
same
and
and address
address from
from the
the dance
dance studio
Audio or
or at the
theKing's
King'sRoom.
Room. She
She
had
had seen
seen him
him many
many
times
timesat
at various
various locations
locations around
around town.
town. --She added
addedthat
that she
she did
himwell
well enough
enoughto
to state
state
She
did not
not know
know him
what
what type
type of
.of a
a person
person he
he was,
was, but
but he
he always
always treated
treated her
her very
very
nicely.
nicely.
Mrs.
advisedthat
that she
she last
lastsaw
sawRUBY
RUBY on
on
Mrs. LEWI4
LEWI4 advised
November
November
21,
21,1963,
1963, when
whenhe
hewas
wasdriving
driving aa white
white car,
car, mtke
mtWe 44
unknown, and
the Expressway
Expressway and
and Main
when
unknown,
andhe
hewas
wasat
at the
Main Street,
Street, when
he
he tooted
tooted his
his horn
horn at her.
her. She
She said
said the
the car
car was
was then
then obobMunger
Mungerand
and Live
LiveOak
Oak and
and that
thatRUBY
RUBY again
served by
by her
heratat
.
tooted
tooted at her
her and
and drove
drove on.
on. She
She said
said the
the car
car was
was not
not a
a
rack
and
she
could
station wagon
and did
did not have
luggage rack and she could .
station
wagon and
have a
a luggage
said this
thiswas
was the
the
was. She
She said
not tell
tell what
type of
of car
car it
it was.
what type
not
the President
President
last time
priorto
to the
the shooting
shooting of
of the
last
time she
shesaw
saw RUBY
RUBY prior
onon
television.
She
was
and OSWALD.
OSWALD.
after
that
was
television. She
and
The The
onlyonly
timetime
after
that
said
said she
she was
was quite
quite upset
upset over
over the
the Presidential
Presidential assassination,
assassination,
passed
her
wasout
outof
of town,
town, and
andher
her father
father had
had just
just passed
her husband
husband was
appeartoo
too
upset
about
RUBY
away. She
not
not
appear
upset
about
RUBY
away.
She said
maid she
shedid
did
announced
wasannounced
why it
shooting OSWALD,
butcould
couldnot
not understand
understand why
it was
OSWALD, but
shooting
that
that OSWALD
OSWALD waswas
going
going
toinbebemoved
moved
from
from
one
one
place
placeto
to another,
another,
which
wouldpermit
permitsuch
such aa shooting.
shooting.
which would
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December
1963
Limy BRY,
KY,4000
4000Stonebridge,
Stonebridge, Dallas,
Dallas,Texas,
Texas,Wes.
Wes.
interriowed-o
interrftwed-o-oitierning
oneerning hishis-knowledgeknoWlodge of and
and any
any possible
association
association with
with
JACK
JACKRUBY.
RUBY. He advised
advisedthatgroximately
thatgroximately
three months
months ago,
two or three
ago, a
a friend of his, LEO , ORTH,
ORTH, opened
•a nightclub
nightclub in Dallas.
Dallas. Soon
Soon after WORTH
WORTH open
open his club,
club, .ffjlw
,IWO
MABRY visited WORTH who
who introduced him
him to aa JACK
JACK WAIL
(14w), `7.47:-7m77:
believed
believed to have
have been
beenininthe
the
employ
of WORTH.
employ
of WORTH.
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said soon
after JACK RUBY shot LIZ HARVEY OSWALD
MABRY said
soon after
he
(MABRY)
telephoned
WORTH
(MABRY)
telephoned
WORTH
and jokingly asked.WORTH if
ifthethe
1
JACK
JACK he
he introduced
introduced him
himto
to at his
his club was JACK RUBY. He
NO said
. . . WORTH
WORTH
answered
answered affirmatively,
affirmatively, and
and that
thatJACK
JACK RUBY
washis
his
RUBY was
"partner." MABRY
MABRY opined
opined that . WORTH felt he (MABRY) was
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'"pulling
"
pulling his leg"
leg"
when
when
WORTH
WORTH answered
answeredhim
himas
as he
he did.
did.
MABRY
MABRY
.
does not
notknow
know ififWORTH
WORTH was
wasactually
actually acquainted with
withRUM
RUBY.
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MABRY
MABRY stated
statedhehehad
hadvisited
visited RUBY's
RUBY's Carousel
Carousel Club
Club -.on
on one
one occasion
occasion in the
thepast,
past,but
butthat
that
hehe
never
never
met
met
RUBY
RUBY and
and ''
knew nothing
nothing about him.
him.
MABRY
MABRY also
alsoadvised
advisedhe
he does
does not
not know OSWALD
OSWALD and
and he
he
knew of
of 'no
'no association
association
between
between
RUBY
RUBY
and
and
OSWALD.
OSWALD.
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The following investigation was conducted by
SA CARLOS L. KIRBY,
KIRBY, JR.,
JR., at Galveston,
Galveston, Texas:
Texasi
)On January
January 2,
2, 1964,
1964, THOMAS
THOMAS J>10c10ENNA,
J>lOcKENNA, 1527_ .
Broadway, advised
advised he
he is
is employed
employed by
by Raymond
Raymond R..
R. Rapp, Jr.,
and Associates, Architects, Room 417, Stewart Building, •
220 - 22nd Street, Galveston, Texas. McKENNA
MCKENNA stated he
lived at either 3103 or 3105 Harvard Street, Dallas, Texas,
prior to moving to Galveston approximately one year previously. McKENNA stated his home telephone number at
1527 Broadway Street is SO 34022.
He stated that about two years ago he, together
with his wife, attended a show at the Adolphus Hotel,
A
A #,
allas, Texas. The operators of this show are B Y RAY -- I.
j. *1
WILSON, who uses the show name Britkl-Wall, and JOE ETERSON,
WILSON and PETERSON reside at the Adolphus Hotel.
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After the show, at WILSON's suggestion, he,
together with his wife, PETERSON and WILSON, attended the
show at the Carousel, and WILSON introduced him and his
wife to JACK RUBY, operator of the Carousel. *After
'After the
show was over at the Carousel, RUBY accompanied by an un-known individual todchim,
todkhim, his wife, WILSON and PETERSON to
breakfast at the Cotton Palace Bowling Alley, McKENNA
stated this is the only time he had ever seen RUBY, and he
remembers nothing about RUBY other than he appeared to be
a friendly and pleasant individual.
McKENNA . stated he never met LEE HARVEY OSWALD,
knew nothing about OSWALD, and in his contacts with RUBY
he received no information indicating that RUBY
Ring was acquainted
with OSWALD.
McKENNA stated that BILLY RAY
RAY WILSON lived with
him and his wife for several years.
diy
0.- He stated that on November 23, 1963, the day
- 0after President KENNEDY was shot, WILSON and PETERSON
visited his home here, and shortly after WILSON arrived
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he (WILSON) received a telephone call from RUBY. He
stated as well as he could recall from the telephone conversation between RUBY and WILSON, RUBY was glad that
WILSON had closed his show at the Adolphus Hotel in view
of the President's death and RUBY apparently was disappointed because other shows had not closed in Dallas.
McKENNA stated he had no additional information
concerning RUBY, and has no idea as to the close acquaintanceship or association between RUBY, WILSON, and PETERSON.
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JOHN VV CMILLAN4
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Distributors, Jax
JaxSeer,
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Northside- Dri4e,
Eat NorthsideDriVe residence
residence 5200
5200 Keswick,'Keswickr-advised
advised. . that
thatlie0
.-•4444 ' had met
.JACK RUBY
RUBY abOut•four-years
about- four'years ago,
met.JACK
agos - which
which would
would havelbeelt
havelbeal
..,
krx-.-, . in
f""'about
1959.
in
about
1959.
He
stated
the
only
contact
he
had
with
RUBY
He
stated
the
only
contact
he
had
with
RUBYmail
was
II"
When he was attempting to get RUBY to handle Jax beer- in
in RUBY!p
=Bra
0.,4
.club•
club• and r in•part
in particular,
cular, the.Vegas
the Vegas Club operated by RUBY
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MILLAN
is ,
14C.MILLAN
stated
stated
that
that
as-ho recalled there was a
. il. ,
private club
club where
where RUBY'
RUBY'ICarousel
(Carousel is
is now
now located
located in Dallas
- '
its4qt
which
was
operated
by
JOE.
LATIN_
which
was
operated
by
JOE.
LATIN_in
in
about
about
1959,
1959,
and
MC
MILLAN
,....
,.....
and
MC
MUM
.. ..,R.
had a company
company membership
membershipinin his
his private
private club.
club. He
He could
could not
not ' •
,
recall the name of the club.
club. MC
MCMILLAN
MILLAN stated
stated that
that he
he recalled
kis--. .
hearing that RUBY had financed SLATIN, but he had no personal
•
knowledge of.RUBY,financing SLATIN.
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MC
MC MILLAN stated that he could
could recall
recall talking
talking to
to and
and seeing RUBY on only two occasions, and both times it was in an
effort to sell RUBY on handling Jax beer, and without any
-.
appointment..
appointment.*. MC
MC MILLAN
MILLAN could
could not.
not. recall
recall that
that he
he had
had actually
actually
been in the club after it became known as the Carousel, but he
would not say positively that he had not been in the Carousel
Club.
Club. .. .
MC
MC MILLAN advised that RUBY had been very cordial and
in fact MC
MC MILLAN
MILLANwas
was of the opinion RUBY was over-solicitous to
MILLAN stated
the point of putting
putting up
up aa false
false front.
front. MC
MC MILLAN
stated the
opinion he got was that RUBY was concerned only
only-with
with RUBY and
was actually "self-centered"...
"self-centered".
.
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MC MILLAN stated that he did not know anything about
MC
RUBY'', political beliefs or background. He stated that he did
RUBY's
HARVEY OSWALD.
OSWALD.
not know of any connection between RUBY and LEE HARVEY
He did not know if
if RUBY
RUBY was
was acquainted
acquainted with
with OSWALD.
OSWALD. MC
MC MILLAN
MILLAN
stated he•
he.had
had no
no knowledge
knowledge of
of OSWALD
OSWALD prior
prior to
to the
the assassination
assassination
of President KENNEDY.
MC MILLAN added that he last knew of SLATIN to be
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MC
operating a lunch counter in the Lawrence Hotel, Dallas, Texas.
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The followin
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investigationwas
The
following
wasconducted by
8A THOMAS
THOMAS H.
H. THORNTONs
THORNTONs ••
AT SANTAIIL
ATSAaAA
TBARALCAL5IFORNIA
LBARACAFORNIA•
...- On December 20, 1963, Mts. gWILL/AMS,..032.2tles
3 WILL/AMS,..832Iales
advised she
Street jadvised
she is
is an
an aunt
aunt Of
—ROBERT
ROBERT M.
M.-MARCH.
OfMARCH. She
She said
said
"MARCH
resides at
at 1612
1612 Fair
Fair Oaks
'MARCH
resides
Oaks Avenue, Apartment
Apartment 23, South
Pasadena
, Californ
ia. She said his residenc
Pasadena,
California.
residence
e phone is
799-7679 and his office phone is MA 6-3888.
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1612 Fair Oaks
Oaks Avenue,
Avenue, Ap
lie
1,
1.23,
South
-California
23,
South
Pasadena,-Fasadena;
California
advisolls*Wkat
,
phone
799-7679,
advisodlie*ViA
4.
is employed in the Bureau
Bureau of
of Investigation
Investi
of the
alleilm
gation of the
LosLos
anstIms"'"
;;".. County District Attorney's Office.,‘His business phone
' MA
MA6-3888,
6-3888, Extension 82276.
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MARCH said his/true
his true name
name is
is.ROBERT
ROBERT E.
i:91MILLER
iWILLER and
and,;._
that he changed his name to- MARCH at Dallas, Texas, for
business purposes. He.said he formerly operated the
Cliff Athletic Club on Kiest Boulevard, between Beckley and
mad
Zangs Boulevard in Dallas, from about December 1960, to
March, 1961. At that time JACK RUBY had a "key club" known:
as the Soverign Club at Dallas. MARCH said membership In
in
this club was $50 per year. He said he visited this club
e.
on approximately
approximately five
five occasions.
occasions. He
He originally
originallyket
ketRUBY
-1TI
RUBYatatC1''
w theSoverign
Soverign Club
Club through
through a friend
wthe
friend of
of MARCH,
MARCH, JOHNfMC
JOHNW QUILIJA6
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akaaka
HUE1'44C
HUE1'44CQUILLAN.
QUILLAN.MARCH
MARCHsaid
saidthat
that MC
MC QUILLAN
QUILLAN was
was a
•
,riv
bartender
at
the
Oak
Oak
Cliff
Cliff
Athletic
Athletic
Club
Club
at
at
the
the
time.
time.
Accordl,i'
Accord
l
,,0
e
ice''
ing to MC QUILLAN, RUBY had given a free membership to 7
QUILLAN in the Soverign Club inasmuch as MC QUILLAN
reportedly
had knowledge of or had previously associated
17). -;,
)7 with
with individuals
individuals known
known mutually
mutually by
by MC
MC QUILLAN
QUILLAN and RUBY at
07
Chicago, Illinois, or at an unknown location in Florida.
MC QUILLAN
QUILLA
N also
alsoclaimed
claimedthat
thathe,
he,MC
MC QUILLAN,
QUILLAN, knew
knew people
people in
the "syndicate,"
but
no
further
explanation
concerning
this
"syndicate,"
statement was furnis
furnished
hed to to
MARCH.
MARCH.
->
MARCH said he met RUBY on several occasions, but
that he did not know him very well. He said he never had
met LEE OSWALD nor did he know of any connection between RUBY
and OSWALD. •
MARCH recalled that JIM (LNU), a bartender at RUBY had
had a.
a.
RUBY's Soverign
Soverign Club, had at one time mentioned RUBY
"violent temper and would beat up his employees." MARCH
does not know any further details concerning
concerning this matter.
He described JIM
JIM as
as aa white
white male, American,45 to 50 years,
and balding.
balding. .
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jam.
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contains
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settber
recommendations
recommendations
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sot conclusicies
of tbeofPSI.
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and
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information as
as to
toHOEY_J.C
HUEY_J.CQUILLASI,
Concerning information
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MARCH said he had last talked to MC QUILLAN tel phonically /%14.
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about two weeks
weeks earlier, at which time MC QUILLAN indicated
indicated ..;
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he was going to hitchhike back to Dallas, Texas. MC QUILLANIs'..
wife, JESSIE, reportedly was to have a chil
chi
d born
ld
bornthe
the prior
prior
week
end and MC QUILLAN indicated he was returning to Dallas
week end
for the birth of this child. He said he did not know the
names of the parents of JESSIE nor their residence location,
although they did live in the Oak Cliff section of Dallas.
JESSIE was formerly a student nurse in about
about 1960
1960 to
to 1961
1961 at
a hospital described by MARCH as
as aa "new
"new large hospital
primarily known for
for its
its nurses:
nurses: training
training program
program."
. He said
he was not certain if this hospital was the Southwest Medical.
School and added it possibly was connected with Parkland
Hospital in Dallas.
Dallas. He
He described
described JESSIE
MC QUILLAN
JESSIE MC
QUILLAN as
as a
white female, American, age 25 years, 514", small slender
build, and brown
brown hair.
hair.
MARCH added that MC QUILLAN met
met JESSIE
JESSIE in Dallas when she worked at
at aa "beer
"beer bar,"
bar," possibly
possibly the Texas Bar,
which was located in downtown Dallas near the bus terminals.
He believed this bar to which he was referring was operated
by an older woman.
has aa brother,
brother -QUILLAN has
MARCH added
added that
that JOHN
JOHN MC
MC QUILLAN
name unknown, who lives in
in the general Burbank, California,area. He said that JOHN had a girl friend, Baum (LNU),
store during the daytime and sang
who is employed
employed at
at aa candy
candy store
at the Olive Branch Club on West Olive in Burbank. He
believed telephone number 843-9596 was the phone number of
the Olive Branch Club. He described Bum as a white female,
American, age 25 years, brunette and very attractive looking.
MARCH said if he determined any additional information
MCQUILLANs,
QUILLANs,hehewould
would immediately advise the FBI.
to locate
locate the
the MC
. .
1963, to
MARCH recontacted SA PAINE on December
December 26,
268 1963,
Christmas.,advise that
that when
when he
he arrived
arrived at
at home
home that
that night
night aaChristmas:,card had been received by Mr. and Mrs. MARCH from JESSIE
'QUILLAN,
which
whichcard
cardindicated
indicatedthe
the newly
newly born
born child
child w
treP QUILLAN,
named LAURA. JESSIE listed a return address of 4931 EA tgate,
tgite,
Dallas 16, Texas. He said the card did not indicate if
husband was there with her.
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The following investigation was conducted on
December 20, 1963, by SA VINCENT J. O'NEILL
O'NEILL in
in an
an attempt
attempt'
to locate and interview HUGH J. MC QUILLAN, 211 South California
.
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Street, Burbank, California:
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Neighborhood inquiry at 211 South California Street
determined that HUGH MC QUILLAN no longer resided there and
his present whereabouts are unknown.
The records of the Glendale Merchants Association,
Association,-*e
) 538
*e)
538 North
North Brand,
Brand, Glendale,
Glendale, California,
California, as
as caused to be
dere
determined that
thatthey
theyhad
re ewed, determined
had.a.a file
HUGH
- '-/file concerning
concerning
HUGH
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C QUILLAN and
and wife
wife JESSIE,
JESSIE, who
who resided
resided at
at 211
211 South
South__
__
si-Vali
a Street, Burbank in 1962. This file indicated
0/
/' that
eYthat
MC QUILLAN
MC QUILLAN
failed
failed
toto
pay
payseveral
severalloans
loans and
and on
on at least
least .
1e/
113 three
three occasions
occasions property
property was
was repossessed
repossessed from him for failure
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to
pay.
pay.
MCMCQUILLAN's
QUILLAN'semployment
employmentwas
was listed
listed as
as bartender
bartender at
1/
- to"Lon
& Mac's" (no city given), and his former employment in
October, 1962, was listed as Siegel's Liquor Store, Dallas,
Texas.
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records
jehe BurbaqN:alifornia,
The recordssrAhe
The
Barba .California Police
Department indicated
Department
indicatedthht"HUGH
OWHUGH
JOHN CC QUILLAN
QUILLAN h
had
t"HUGH JOHN
ad an
automobile repossessed
repossessed on
on August
August 26, 62, at which time
he was residing at 211 California Street, and on January 2,
1963, the Burbank Police re ived a telephone
telephone report
report of
of aa possible prowler from JESSI C_QUILLANr-135 A South Cordova,
Burbank.
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Mrs.FRANCES
FRANCES FOTHERGRILL,
FOTHERGRILL, 2248
Mrs.
2248 North Naomi, Burbank,
a former neighbor
neighbor of
of the
the MC
MC QUILLAN's
at 135
135 South
South Cordova,
Cordova, ,
QUILLAN's at
advised that HUGH J. and JESSIE MC QUILLAN have separated
and the latter resides with her parents (name unknown) !n
Dallas, Texas and is expecting her third child soon.
ROFLILL does
RORILL
does not
not know
know the
the present
present whereabouts
whereabouts of
Mrs. FOTHE
HUGH MC QUILLAN.
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"LEFTY" MILLER,
MILLER, Bartender
Bartender of Lon & Mac's Cafe,
-- "LEFTY"
4307 West Olive, Burbank advised that JOHN MC QUILLAN
worked at that cafe in 1962, but due to excessive
formerly worked
terminated and
and MC
MC QUILLAN's
QUILLAN's- •
.drinking, his services were terminated
.
-prIsent
present whereabouts
whereabouts are unknown to MILLER.
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Mrs. TH
USCH, 16258 Vintage Street, Granada.
Hills, advised -that-she
-that-shevis-the
- is-the owner of the apartments at
135 South Cordova, and that in approximately October, 1963,
JESSIE and JOHN MC
ILLAN
QUILLAN
QU separated
separated
andand
moved
movedfinim
finm the
the
apartment. Mrs. YOUSCH stated that JESSIE MC QUILLAN
presently resides in Dallas, Texas, with
with.her
her parents
parents,
name and address unknown, and that JOHN MC QUILLAN,
QUILLAN, ;oho
who still
still
owes rent, is reportedly residing in the Los Angeles area...
A telephone call to the Chance Cafe, 3911 Riverside
Drive, Burbank, determined that JOHN MC QUILLAN was known
as a "bar fly" and according to the bartender, MC QUILLAN
returned to Dallas, Texas approximately one week ago, and
his present whereabouts in Dallas are unknown.
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December 26,
26, 1963,
1963, by
by SA
SA amais
amais A.
Jr.
A. PAINE,
PAINE, Jr.
JAL
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Olive Branch
Branch Bar,.
3522 West
West Olive,.
Olive,.
Bars. 3522
ormw,
ormwo
Burbank, California, advised the girl friend of JOHN MC
akaris
akaris BILLIE
BILLIELOUISVOISON,
LOUISVOISON, who
who might
might possibly
possibly know the .
location of MC QUILLAN. Be)said
He)said BILLIE
BILLER LOUISE is employed at
a candy store, name unknown, near Seventh and Hill Streets
in Los Angeles,
Angeles, California,/
California/ He
He believed
believed her
her location
location could
be ascertained through7the
through
hthe International
International Pancake
Pancake House
House in
the Westchester, California, area. He said he did not know
knov
QUILLA
the location of HUEY MC QUILL
N.
AN.
Inquiry at the International House of Pancakes,
Inglewood, California, phone OR 8-5881, determined BILLIE
LOUISE OLSON was formerly the hostess at the Crenshaw Branch
of the International House of Pancakes.
Inquiry at the Crenshaw Branch of the International
House of Pancakes ascertained that BILLIE LOUISE
LOUISE OLSON
OLSON was
employed by Barton's Candy Store in downtown Los Angeles,
California.
BILLIE LOUISE, formerly known as BILLIE LOUISE OLSON,
employed at Barton's Candy Store, 402 West Seventh Street,
Los Angeles, California, phone 623-3334, advised she is the
- former girl friend of HhEY J. MC QUILLAN, aka JOHN MC QUILLAN.
She said she did not know his location. She terminated
associating with MC QUILLAN when she ascertained he was married.
She believed
believed his
his brother, BOB MC QUILLAN, whose wife is named
She
BEVERLY, possibly resided on Avon Street in a green apartment
apartment'
house behind a large apartment
apartment house,
house facing
facing Riverside
Riverside Drive
at Avon Street. She said she would immediately advise the
FBI if she determined HUE!
HUEY MC QUILLAN was still in the area.
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JOHN, 4931 las
Mai
iv., a member
iv*,
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re! the
the Bovereign'qinb
Boversign'ciubs'
o'SUrnished
furnished the
the toll
toll
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He
Me first
first .set
set JACK
JACK MUBT.in
RUB? ,in
October
October
1961
1961
when
when
be he
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MC
said at
at the
thetime.
tins ha
beset
mot RUBY
RUBY hhe,
e, MC
MCQUILLAn
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was tending bar at the Alpine Clubss.Dillas,
owned by
by.a
•Dillas, owned
.a VALLACSI
WALLACBH#
MARCH andmanaged.by
managed. byROBERT
7•:V:, MARCS_Ind
MARCH.
He said
at the
tine
ofofhis
ROBERT
MARCH.
He said
at the
time
its '-''.
eting with
meeting
with RUBY
RUBY he
he was
was given.
givens
ireesembership
to
the
' free_membership
to
the
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.il
me
_Sovereign
Club.
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QUILLANSaid
SaidRUBY
RUBYsubsequently
subsequently attempted
attempted to
to get
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his to cone
him
come to work at the Sovereign Club. However, be
he refused
iio.... t- . ., inasmuch
inasmuch as be had become,
becomwmanager
managerof
of the
the Alpine
Alpine Club.
Club.
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MC QUILLAN said be considers himself and RUBY to be
',,p..--..
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ti,
good friends,
friends, but
but that
that they
they bad
bad disagreliments.
disagreements. .Be
.S0 recalled
recalled one
•
r!-t •
instance
where
be
hired
one
of
RUBY's
hostesses
away
from his
,
and RUBY called him
his on the telephone and berated him for it. He
said be
he saw RUBY
RUBY later
later that
that night
night and
and RUBY
RUBY made
made no
no mention
mentions!
of the
. -•
,
. incident..
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He said be considers RUBY to be basically •
a nice guy
-and extremely generous; however, he was very emotional and
nerous;and would
neVvoulkand
would shout
shout at
at his
his help.help.- ,, .
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He said the only mutual friend be and RUBY had was
NI
BILLTHOWARD, who operated the Stork Club in Dallas. He said
BILLfHOWARD,
there was never any discussion between them concerning
concerning mutual
mutual „.
friends in Chicago, nor did he
be give any indication or say anything to RUBY which would lead RUBY to believe. that he knew any_
.
individuals in the Syndicates.
.
.
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-MC QUILLAN said be
he had lived in Miami, Florida, for many
that •
years and be
he bad discussed Miami, Florida, with RUBY, but. that
mutual friends
friends in
inthat
thatcity.
city. '
.
they did not have'any
have- any mutual
Re
He said he recalls RUBY, saying be did not have anything to do with the rackets any more, but there was no,
no further
he visited the Vegas
guILLIN said be
discussion concerning
concerning this.
this. MC guiLL6
discussion
Club a couple of times and had visited the Sovereign and Carousel
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by Spocief
SpecialAgen
Agent
Agent
J.
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The follo
following
was was
conducted
by by
conducted
. SA
SACLAUDE
CLAUDE
Il..NEADOW,
U. MEADOW,
JR. JR.
at at
Gainesville,
Gainesville, Florida,
Florida,
on on
December
December 17,
17, 1963:
1963:
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inutg, whose
Mrs. BUN
BLAN
Irmo,
whose home
homeaddress
address
IttaL.:
Is /Alta,
lettiTeriiOe
Miami 7IAr4
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w. was
Irasinterviewed
interviewed at
attb*.
tho -1,i- diughter,
:.ivresidenceresidenCenirbeir
1517birr
daughter,
_NANCY
.NANCY AA o.VII•LIE
c.VI1,LIE
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_Sputhyost
_Sputhyest
krs. MCI
krs.
-Gainesville
20t4_Street r-Gainesville
/I
/I advised
advisedshe
she
has
has
known
known ..
• . 20t4_Street
LEON RUBY
for
15years
yearshaving
having
met
thrumgb
ACI LEON
RUBY
for about12
about12 or
or 15
met
himhis
thruugh
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'' her
herson,
son,LEWIS,
LEWIS, in
inDallas,
Dallas,
Texas.
Texas.
She
She
advised
advised
that
that
her her
s'or,per,
LEWIS,
LEWIS, at
at the
the time
timeshe
shemet
metRUBY,
RUBY, was
was operating
operatinga night
• night
clubclub
in
in Dallas.
Dallas.
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Mrs. McWILLIE
McWILLIE advised
advised she
she would
would visit
visit
herher
sonson
about
about
twicel6rear staying
staying
about
about
a month
a month
during
during each
each visit.
visit.
Sbe
,Awice16rear
Sb*
.
- **:advised'that
'advised'thather
her
son
sonwas
wasresiding
residing
at at
thatthat
timetime
in the
inMaple
the Maple
• ' Terrace
Terrace Apartments
Apartmentswhich
whichisis
an an
apartment
apartment
hotel.
hotel.
RUBY
RUBY
did did
mot 4
sot 4
live
live inin
the
the
same
sameapartment
apartmentbuilding
building
butbut
would
would
visit
visit
with her
with her
and
and her son
son practically
practically
every
every
day.day.
She advised
She advised
RUBY
RUBY
had had
sn sn
apartment
apartment somewhere
somewhere inin Dallas,
Dallas, but
butthat
that
she
she
never
never
visited
visited
his his
in
inthis
this
apartment.
apartment.
She
She
recalls
recalls
that that
RUBY
RUBY
at the
at time,
the time,
woos was
operating
theVegas
Vegas Club
Club in
inDallas
Dallas
which,
according
to
operating the
which,
according
to Ws.
1.
'NeWILLIE,
McWILLIE, was
was not
not an
anelaborate
elaborate
club
club
but but
was was
supposed
supposed
to have
to have
been
been a
a decent
decent club.:
club.:
She
Sheadvised
advised
that
that
her her
acquaintance
acquaintance
with with
„7.e. ,
t.‘kr.,
RUBY
was
restricted to
thethe
last!
RUBY was
restricted
to her
herDonts
son'sapartment,
apartment,and
andthat
that
last
ra
time
time she
shesaw
sawRUBY
RUBY was
was about
aboutseven
sevenyears
years
ago.
ago.
tee .
Ws.
She
She recalls
recalls that
thatshe
shebelieves
believes
the
the
last
last
time
time
she she
saw
saw RUBY
RUBYbe
bewas
wasgoing
going with
witha agirl
girl
named
named
ALICE
ALICE
(Last
(Last
Name
Name
.a schoolteacher.
Unknown)
Unknown) and
andunderstood
understoodthis
this girl
girl
to to
be.a
beschoolteacher.
She
her early
early30's,
90's,
a nicely
She described
described ALICE
ALICEas
asbeing
being in
in her
a nicely
dressed
dressed girl,
girl, very
very
refined
refined
looking
looking
withwith
brown
brown
hair hair
and of
and of
average
average height.
height.
Mrs.
Mrs. McWILLIE
McWILLIE stated
stated that
that
she
she
bad
bad
always
always
considered
considered
RUBY
RUBY toto be
be aa well
well mannered
mannered individual
individual
who
whodid
did
notnot
drink
drink
or or
smoke,
thatshe
shebad
badnever
never
heard
anything
unfavorable
smoke, and
and that
heard
anything
unfavorable
concerning-him
concerning-him during
during the
thetime
time
she
she
was
wasvisiting
visiting
her son
her in
son in
Dallas.
Dallas.
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Dallas,
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stayed at
at his
his house
house for
for about a
a week.
week. ''On
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this occasion
occasion she
she met
net JACK RUBY
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through his;
his 'Be
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1 *.:1, this
4? 5 NANCY
NANCY has never
never visited
visited his
his at
at Us
Las Vegas
Vegas and
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that he
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former
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address
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about two
two and
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half years
years ago,
ago, she
she had
hadtenants
tenantsbybythe
thenamename t ,..,
of (FlU)
in the
the apartments.
apartments.She
She.said
saidat
attho:',
the:',(FW) MC WILLIE living
living in
tins the MC WILLIE'
time
WILLIE. moved, they left a package in their apart.
apart
sent, which they told her would be plated up by JACK RUBY. ':
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said approxiitately
approzi6ately a'
**week
week aftir
after thethe
Mrs. ROBISON
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MC Willals
moved, she
she called RUBY, since he had no picked up
MC
mums moved,
the package, and requested that he come to the apartments and
said RUBY
RUBY came
came to
to the
the apartment
apartment that
that night
obtain same. She
Shesaid
and obtained
obtained the
the package
package which
which she
she nptAbA
nri&AA dInntained
unstained poker
poker chips. ,
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ROBISON advised
advised after
after seeing
seeing RUBY's
RUBT's picture on
Mrs.
television she recognized him as the same
sane individual who had
picked up the poker chips and mentioned the fact to some of
of.
her friends. She said her friends suggested she advise the
FBI of the incident, but inasmuch as she observed the package
to contain poker chips and nothing further, she did not feel
it to have any importance to the current inquiries being
conducted. •
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advised he met
Apartments, advised
Stoneleigh &SsTerrace
Terrace Apartments,
Stoneleigh
sometime in 1960, when RUBY came
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Musicale. .:
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Musicals
Fair Grounds Musicale
the guest
guest stars
starswho
whoappeared
appeared at the Fair
to Mm's
Mm's club, which he believed was a private club, across.
-*to
He said'o
the street
street from
from the
the Adolphus
Adolphus Hotel,
Hotel, Dallas.
Dallas. ft
the
thought/RUBY
thought/RUBY gave him a membership card to the club at the
cannot recall
recall whether he still had the card
he cannot
time,
time, but he
the club
club at a later time
he went to the
not. He
He stated he
or not.
with a
when
when it
it was
VIA a public club, probably the Carousel, with
his
theatrical agent from Chicago, Illinois, who had asked his
see aa Negro,
Negro, singer
singerwho
whowas,at
was,atBUBY's-club.
RUBY's.club. He
He said
said she
shoto see
could
not
estimate
the
time
of
this
was
ves excellent, but he
he could
wasthe
the only
only time
time he
he had
had been
been at
at the club.
hatiever, ititwas
visit; hotiever,
MEEKER advised
advised he
he used
used to
to book
book the
the talent at the
. MEEKER
1963,
Empire Room in the Statler Hilton Hotel until January,
January, 1963,
and he thought RUBY occasionally visited the Empire Roam
Room
be certain .of
of this either.
show, but he
he cannot be
to catch the show,
Be
He added he had seen RUBY around town on numerous
occasions, but has had
had no
no personal contact or associationassociationwith him. Further, he did not know RUBY well enough to
describe his character, but stated he was rather brash in
his approach. He knew of no connection
connection between RUBY and
LEE HARVEY OSWALD. .
MEEKER
MEEKER waswas
contacted
contacted at
at his
his office,
office,
Roos 215,
Roos 215,
Stoneleigh Hotel,
Maple
Avenue.
Hotel, Maple Avenue.
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Amusements Editor,
Editor, "Dallas
"Dallas Time
Time
Rerald",'whose-name
Ilerald",'whose-aaas
was
furnished
by
DONALD
B.
SAFRAR
was
.
- -as- being an acquaintance of RUBY, advised as follows:
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Mr..HIRRS stated that he has known RUBY on a 4..„.,,,
business
business basis
basis only
only during the past six or seven years. his by
stated prior to meeting RUBY he was called by him
telephone relative to space to be used in the "Dallas
Tines Herald"
Times
Herald" newspaper
newspaper for
for the
the Vegas
Vegas Club.
Club. A
A few days
later, he, MIRES, was at the Showroom
showroom of the Adolphus
Hotel and RUBY case
cane by his
him and when he saw HIRES,
VIERS, he
started shouting something to the effect that NIERS
MIRES had
given more space in his paper to the other clubs than
he had to RUBY's clubs. HEIRS
VIERS did not learn how RUBY
recognized his whereas VIERS had never seen RUBY before
to his knowledge.
MIRES advised that RUBY has appeared at the
"Times Herald" Building on numerous occasions concerning
publicity for his clubs and frequently has complained of
preferential treatment being given his competitors relative
to space in the newspaper concerning various clubs in
Dallas. VIERS added that RUBY has appeared to be unreasonable
in his complaints concerning alleged unfair treatment
of his by this newspaper.'
PIERS
VIERS stated he last saw RUBY several months ago,
exact date unknown, when RUBY appeared at the "Times
Herald" Building on business..
business.,
VIERS advised that he did not know LEE HARVEY
OSWALD and has no information indicating that OSWALD and
RUBY ever associated together. He added tht he has no
information concerning the shooting of OSWALD by RUBY,
RUBY. •
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advised
that
that
hehe
has
has
been
been
a afire
fire inspector
inspector ..
Mr. MILLER
2111 Main
Main Street,
located at 2111
Street,
for the
the Dallas
DallasNir4vDepartment
Tire - Department located
severalyears,
years,and
and in
inconnection
connection with
with his
-past several
Dallas, for
for the
thepast
employment,
employment,he
hebecomes
becomes
acquainted
acquainted
with
with
several
severalof
of the
the club
owners
Nemplained this
ownersin
in the
the Dallas
Dallas area. Nemplained
this by
bysaying
sayingtat
tat the
fire inspectors
to make
make
periodic
checks,
con- •
fire
inspectors are
are required
required to
periodic
checks,
inin
conjunction with
with the
the police department,
department, of
of the
the various
various night
night clubs.
clubs.
junction
Each
required to
to be
be inspected
inspected by
by both
both
Eachclub
clubin
in the
the Dallas
Dallas area
area is
is required
the fire
firedepartment
department and
and the
the police
police department
department prior
prior to the
issuance of
of aadance
dance license
license
and
andfor
for
this
this
reason
reason
MILLER
MILLER was
was of
of
the opinion
opinionthat
that
RUBY bad
had written
writtenMILLER's
MILLER's telephone
number U.
RUBY
telephone number
ta.
his
his notebook.
notebook.
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MILLER went
went
on on
totosay
saythat
that be
he regarded
regarded RUBY
RUBY as
as's'
a -.
casual acquaintance
acquaintance and
and knew
knewof
ofnothing
nothingspecific
specific concerning
concerning
Ilia
his background,
background, friends,
friends,ororassociates,
associates,political
political views,
views, or
or
Dallas Police
Police Departthe Dallas
Departany
any connection he
he may
may have
have had
had with the
was unknown
unknown
to to
him
hisprior
priortotothe
theassess
assess sent.
sent. LEE HARVEY OSWALD was
and he
he knew
knew of
ofnonoconnection
connection
between
between
RUBY
RUBY
andand
OSWALD.
OSWALD.
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2508.Oak
.Oak
Creek
Creek
Circle,
Circle, De11aso
Dellaso rt.
WILLIS C:14
C:1MILLER,
Mr.
Mr. WILLIE
Telephone
Number
1-5485,4as
interviewed to
to determine
determine Irky.„_,.*.Telephone Number
IVIV
1-5465
,4as interviewed
-,
'his
'his telephone
telephonenumber
number appeared
appearedin
in the address
address book
book belonging
belonging ,,...
to
to JACK
JACK RUBY.
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439 MyerslCireile-,
439
Myers JUireile,who
whois
is believed
believed to
to be
be aa charter
charter member,
member;
*ember
or temporary member of one of JACK RUBY's clubs,
*ember or
furnished the
the foleadng
folewing
information:
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He has known JACK RUBY for approximately ten
years having met him when he owned the Silver Spur .
Club in Dallas. Re
He said he last saw RUE! about four
years ago at the Sovereign Club in Dallas..
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MONTGOMERY advise,
advised
' RUBY attcapted to interest
him Jr.
in going
going into
into partnership
partnership with
with him
him in
in the
the operation
Sovereign Club.
Club. However,
However, he
he was
was not
not interested
interested
of 'Ihs
the Sovereign
de Ong so.
so.
it doLng
YCKPCOMERT
MCKPCOMERT advised he operates a drive-in
drive-in and
and
in connection with this business, he receives quite a few
few
passes to nigh!:
nighT. clubs throJghout the city and he may have
possibly obts.ined a pass to cna
tea of RUBY's clubs through
hiA lausitaEs.
business. He
He said
said he
he doer
does not
not recall
recall ever having
atterd=-d th.
th' Carouse:: or Vegas Clubs.
.:onederec! RUBY
advise: he
RUBY
HONTCOMERv
MONTCOMERv advise:
he always
always.:onsideret!
to be very esmotior-ti and 1.ighly excitable type individual .
whc got,
who
go: ckrried
ckrried away
away with
no background
background
MONTGOMERY stated
stated he
he could
could :furnish
furnish no
inrormatiom concexming RUBY nor does be
he know anything
concertiLg his
concertiLg
his caaracti.ex
caaracter or
or assoclatea.
assoclatea.
IWNTGOKERY
MCNTGOMERY sdvieeid
advised LEE HARVEY
HARVEY OSWALD
OSWALD sits
vas unknown'
unknown'
.xeoall
.t.oallever
everhavLng
having seen
seen him
him at
at RUEY's
RUEY's
bAt a7.4
a7.4 does
doesnot
nota.
to bAt
noapany with RUBY.
clubs or it aoapany
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Mr. ROBERT
ROBERT LOUlt4ORTON,3414
LOUI4ORTON,3414 Minima,
Manua, Dallas
Dallas
,.telephone
telephone number
number LA 6-7 0, whose name and telephone
NORTON, FL
FL 7-7009,
7-7009, in RUBY's
as loo
780 NORTON,
number appeared as
personal property in con
kec
Whec
tion with'a search of his
car, was contacted at which time he advised that
telephone number FL 7-7009 is his old number and that
it would appear very logical IIIV
'pat his name and number
would
would be
be in
in the
the personal effedii of RUBY. •
Be advised that he is the owner of the Pago
Club, which is located at 4611 Cole, telephone number
LA 6-5710, and because of the type of business he is in
he has become acquainted
acquainted with
with JACK
JACK RUBY.
RUBY. Re
Re could
could not
not -.
recall the exact date he first met RUBY but felt that - it was 'approximately
approximately seven
seven years
years ago
ago when
when RUBY
RUBY use4
used to
have a place of business near the Pago Club which *as
*as
at that time located at 2228 Mc Kinney, Dallas, Texas.
RUBY were
were brought
Like all club owners, he, NORTON, and RUBY
together strictly through business contacts and
and could
could .. •
recall having conversation with RUBY strictly in the
line of business, generally in the field of entertainment.
NORTON could recall RUBY stopping in at his club on
various occasions to observe the entertainment and
would on different occasions attempt to employ the
individuals that
that he
he (NQE!13N)
(NOIR:a) had
individuals
had for
for his
his entertainment.
entertainment.
Mr. NORTON stated that his association with
RUBY has been strictly that of a business relationship
.
and could
could niot7illot7"recall
recallever
eversocializing
socializingwith
withRUBY.
RUBY. Re
He
has never discussed politics with MIBY
NUBY and has never heard
RUBY express
express-his
his likes or dislikes along this line.
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NORTON went on to say that he last observed
JACK
JACKRUBY
RUBYsometime
sometime during
during the
the °vetting
evening of
of November
November 23, 1963,
and explained that RUBY came
cane by his place of business.
NORTON advised that he talked with RUBY concerning what
a terrible thing for the President. to have been assassinated,
and asked.RUBY
asked.RUBY at
at this
this time
time if
if his
his clubs
clubs were
were closed.
closed. Be
Be
could recall that
that RUBY
RUBY told him that he definitely had his
clubs closed that night and after a very short conversation
MpBY
MpBY left Mr. NORTON's club.'
club. NORTON
NORTONstated
stated that.
that. he
he could
could
recall nothing unusual that happened that particular. evening
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conversation.
Mr. NORTON advised that LEE HARVEY OSWALD was
unknown to bin prior to the assassination. of the President
'and knew of no connection whatsoever between RUBY and
MUM. Be knew of no connection whatsoever between RUBY
.and any members of the Dallas Police Department and was
of the opinion that RUBY's association with the Police
Department was similar to that of all club owners in the
Dallas area.
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NORTON could offer no information as to why .
RUBY shot LEE HARVEY OSWALD and possessed no other
information other than what he had heard through the
local news media.
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267 'Exchange
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7=6676, advised
advised as
as follows:
telephone FL
He and his wife had been members of the Sovereign
-Club for six months several years ago, at which time it was
..owned by JACK RUBY. -He has known JACK RUBY around three years
and aside from seeing him-approximately
two times a month while
him-approximately•two
. he was a member of
of the
the Sovereign
Sovereign Club,-he
Club,•he would
would occasionally
occasionally see
see RUBY around the court house and in the downtown
downtown area.
area. He
He -• .
described RUBY as an emotional, gregarious person who did not
impress him as having any-interest in politics or associated
interests.
• •
It was his opinion the only manner in which RUBY was
associated with the shooting of LEE OSWALD was through his
knew of no
emotions. He did not know LEE HARVEY
HARVEY OSWALD
OSWALD and
and knew
association between RUBY and OSWALD or between RUBY and anyone
had
of the type person OSWALD appeared to be, based on what he bad
read in the papers.
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advised she
advised
she left
leftDallas,
Dallas,t*xase
times ,
. during
during the
the month
month of
of November
November 1963,
1963, aa few
few days
days after Believes*.
Sh stated that she came to Southgate, California,
California, with
with one
one %-iand MARY.LORENE
NARY LORENE O'NEAL in JIM PAZ's
PAZIs 1958 Edsel
Easel automobile.
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PEREZ related while in Dallas, Texas;
Texas, she last lived
at
at the
theBryant
Bryant Hotel
Hotel on Bryant Street with her aunt KATHLEEN
FULLER. PEREZ
PEREZ advised
PULLER.
advised she
she applied
applied for work at JACK:male
JACK RUBYls
Carousel night club after noticing an ad in one of the local
Dallas newspapers
Dallas
newspapers advertising
advertisingfor
foroocktail
oocktail
waitresses
at Mrs
waitresses
at RUBY's
Carousel.
•
PEREZ
PEREZ related
related she
she telephonically contacted
contactedthe
the .
alb
Carousel and they told her to come down and apply. She
stated she did go to the
the Carousel
Carousel located
located on
on Commerse
Commerse Street,
Street, .
Dallas, Texas, and at this time JACK RUBY was busy and was
unable to see her. She was told to come back the next day
which she did and at this time JACK RUBY talked with her and
invited her to lunch. She went to lunch with RUBY and another man whose
whose name
name she
she does
doesnot
notrecall
recalland
andRUBY
RUBYtook
took
herher
to to
a a :
restaurant on Industrial Boulevard behind the 77 Drive-In
--,
and at this time RUBY told her that he thought she would make
a good stripper. He offered to send her to a local strip
tease school so that she could work up a routine, learn a
strip act and
and then
then appear
appear at
at his
his club.
club. PEREZ stated
stated that she
told RUBY she would be agreeable to becoming a stripper because
she liked dancing and thought she would like the work.
PEREZ stated her dealings with JACK RUBY *were
Were strictly
limited to a few telephone conversations and this one specific
time which
time
which he
he took
took her
herto
tolunch.
lunch.She
Sheadvised
advised
the
the
dayday
after
after
RUBY
RUBY ,
,
took her to lunch she telephonically contacted him telling him
took:her
/'
that she was in need of money and inquiring as to when she could
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PEREZ,
PEREZ, RUBY advised
advised'
:her
'her it
it would be aa few
few days
days and
and at
at this
thistime
timeshe
shetold
toldhis
Mambo
She
needed money and he told her he could get her
her work
at
the
Bail
work at the Ball
`Pen
Drive-In
as
a
'Pen Drive-In as a oar
oar hop
hop in
in a town near Dallas.
.
PEREZ related that she took this employment at the
ihS
Bull Pen,
Pen Drive-In
Drive-In as
as aa oar
oar hop
hop which
which RUBY arranged for her
her
and
and after
after working
working as
as a oar
oar hop
hop for approximately
approximately one week she
again went
went back
back to
to the Carousel
Carousel and asked to see
see JACK
JACKRUBY
RUBY
in regards to her attending a strip tease school and at this
Carousel that It.
Mr. RUBY
RUBY
time she was told by someone in the
the Carousel
wanted nothing more
more to
to do with her because he had learned that
she had a police record.
PEREZ stated
stated she
she told
told this
this individual
individual in
in the
the
Carousel that she did not have a Dallas police record which
that Mr.
Mr.
she stated is true. However, the person insisted that
her and had no further interest in her and
want her
RUBY did
did not want
asked her to leave the club. She stated she did leave the
Carousel and had no further dealings whatsoever with JACK RUBY.
PEREZ related she does not have any police record
in Dallas. However, she has served ten days in'Tucson,
in- Tucson, Arizona,
for vagrancy.
PEREZ related that MARY O'NEAL was employed by JACK
that MARY
MARY
RUBY as a cocktail waitress; however, she believed that
to
ately
seven
days
only worked at the Carousel
approximately
approxim
five
Carousel
work.
PEREZ
and
not like
likethe
the
work.
PEREZ stated her
and quit
quit because she did not
dealings
with
JACK
RUBY
were
very
limited
and
she advised that
dealings with JACK
she was surprised when she read in the papers that RUBY had
killed OSWAlD. She stated she did not know
knaa if there was any
that LSE
HARVEY
LSE
HARVEYOSWALD
OSWALD
conspiracy between RUBY and OSWALD
OSWALD and
and that
was unknown to her.
. ,
PEREZ related that
when she
she was
was living at the Bryantthat when
Hotel she had telephone number CA 4-2234,
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The following physical description was obtained
obtainRe
lobservation'and
observation'and interview:
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NameName
Address
Date of birth.
Place
Height
•
Weight
Eyes
Hair
Education
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Relatives
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Past
NORMA BARNETT PEREZ
3020
3020 Nebraska
Nebraska Avenue,
Avenue,
Southgate,
Southgate, California
April 7, 1941
. April
tellass_Te4ae
tellass_Te4ap : - --- 5 I "M"
120
Dark brown
Dark
brown
Dark
Dark brown
brown
8th grade
grade Friendship
FriendshipHuh
Huh
School, Wolfforth, Texas . •
Mother - CLEO McMILLIN,
1210 - 9th Street, Apartment
B, Lubbock,
Lubbock, Texas;
Texas; Stepfather same as
MACK MILLER,
MACK
MILLER, address same
mother; Father - EDWARD
Delhart,
BARNETT, Box 935, DeIhart,
Texas; Half-sister - - CAROL
SUE McCRITE, Box 935, ... telhart, Texas; Half-brother
brother-.
DONALD HORTON,
HORTON, Lancaster,'
Lancaster
Texas; Half-brother - NOLAN RAY
HORTON, Dallas, Texas; Halfbrother
NETT, :
brother- EDWARD
- EDWARD BAR
BARNETT,
Culver
Culver City,
City, California,
California,
telephone number YE
VE 8-9767;
8-9787;
Half-brother - HOWARD
Half-brother
- HOWARDBARNETT,
BARNETT,
100
100 North
North Pacific,
Pacific, QApanside,
QApanside,
‘,California; Husband"vWEN
‘.,California;
Husband7OHN
APEREZ, Box 201, Wolfforth,
. Texas; Friend - ABEL NONTEZ,
Box 201, Wolfforthi Texas
Admits being arrested
arrested Tucson,
Tucson,
Arizona, vagrancy,
vagrancy, 1982...
1962.
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L01%:NDER,
ORDER, 115
115 Maple,
Maple, stated
stated that
that she f
list JACK
4.iet
JACK "RUBY
RUBY while
whilesitee
s was-working
was working at
at the
the Howard.
Howard. Johnson
1I Restaurant looated on the Dallas-Fort Worth Turnpike. Mhi
in the Howard Johnson Restaurant about five months ago, RUBY
introduced himself to PONDER and during resulting conversation
offered PONDER
PONDER a•job-as
a job -as a waitress at the Vegas Club in Dallas,
indicating to her he was in need of some "new faces". The
initial meeting of RUBY and PONDER terminated
terminated with
with RUBY's
RUBY'.
invitation.to PONDER to visit the Vegas Club.and "look the
invitation-to
situation.over"•
situation.over"..-
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PONDER
stated she.
she traveled
traveled to
to Dallas
Dallas about
about two weeks
wieks
PONDER stated
later and went to the Vegas Club to see RUBY and discuss further
. details about employment. During
During this
this discussion
discussion with
with RUBY,
RUBY, she
learned. RUBY was interested in employing her as a stripper and
not as a waitress, all contingent on her going on a diet. RUBY
Alid.not.offer
her a specific
specific salary
did not.offer her
salary but
but -advised
advised her his girls
girls .
did real wall..
wall, PONDER
PONDER stated
stated she
she refused
refused the
the offer
offer of
of employment
as a stripper, advising RUBY she was under the impression he
stated she
she saw
saw RUBY
RUBY on the
PONDER stated
wanted her as a waitress. PONDER
third and-final
and final time when he stopped in the Howard Johnson
•
Restaurant sometime during October 1963. She stated RUBY did
not speak to her on this occasion and RUBY acted as though he
Jr
did not recognize her.
PONDER further advised she never heard RUBY discuss
his political beliefs and was not aware of any association
between RUBY and LEE HARVEY OSWALD.
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by Speciel
Special Agent
•Arlington. Texas
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glarence,
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advised as foll#ws:
foll#ws:
ilarence, Dallas,
basil •
socialbasis
a limited
RUBY
He
known JACK
RIMY
on on
a Monad
social
JACK
had known
He had
a member
been
had
hehe
two or
or three
three years
yearsaas
had
been
a member of
ofthe
theBoyer.Isa
Sovereign '
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had seen
formerlyowned
owned by
byRUBY.
RUBY. Ha
He had
seen JACK
JACE RUBY
Club, formerly
clubs
other
at
while
great
a
in
this
club
on
occasion
and
once
in
a
great
while
other
clubs
once
and
occasion
on
club
this
his other
with his
conversation with
any conversation
in Dallas.
Dallas.He
He had
had never
never had
had any
other
Is
background.
his
to
as
idea
no
than
passing
comment
anlhad
no
idea
as
to
his
background.
Hs •
had
and
than passing comment
had
therefore,
and,
OSWALD
LEE
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